Yeah... you guys are awesome your presentation was top notch, the city is very player friendly but I'd rather play in Filthadelphia on a team far away from Stanley Cup aspirations. We must have knocked the presentation out of the damn park.dmiles2186 wrote:
I also read that Lecavalier told them their presentation was one of the best, even though he chose Philly.
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Bernie's stone-washed jeans were the tipping point.glen a richter wrote:Yeah... you guys are awesome your presentation was top notch, the city is very player friendly but I'd rather play in Filthadelphia on a team far away from Stanley Cup aspirations. We must have knocked the presentation out of the damn park.dmiles2186 wrote:
I also read that Lecavalier told them their presentation was one of the best, even though he chose Philly.
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surprised by the Leopold signing although its for less money than I would have expected.
Still, before signing Piet, the Blues have already got $20 M commited to D-men for next season.
Barring changes and figuring Piet gets $5M ish and Stew gets $3.5 M ish
that puts the payroll at about $61 M or alot closer to the ceiling than the floor.
Still, before signing Piet, the Blues have already got $20 M commited to D-men for next season.
Barring changes and figuring Piet gets $5M ish and Stew gets $3.5 M ish
that puts the payroll at about $61 M or alot closer to the ceiling than the floor.
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You get two compliance buyouts, they still get the same amount of money, but it is paid out over DOUBLE the length of the contract (IE DiPietro will be paid until hes 75), BUT the player (LOL) has to clear waivers (unless they have a no movement clause), and you get two compliance buyouts ONLY, and you have to use them by the time the 2014-15 season starts (by the end of next off season). The big thing is that the compliance buyouts clear that salary from your cap hit, normally a percentage of the buyout still gets deducted from your salary cap each season remaining on the contract, but with the two compliance buyouts, there is ZERO cap hit to the bought out salaries.WaukeeBlues wrote:My understanding as to why there are more of them this offseason is that with the lockout a team is afforded a certain number of "compliance buyouts" to come to terms with the new salary cap structure put in place by the lockout. In other words, each team has a certain number of guys they can ostensibly "buy out for free" and not have their cap hit still count against the team. Normally when a team buys a guy out they still get a cap hit (albeit a lower one) from the guy for the length of the contract. I think the Isles are still being hit with Yashin's IIRC.Jaykay wrote:Can someone please explain me: What is the thing with the buy-outs? If a team buys out a player, does this free-up cap-space? If yes, does the bought-out players not count agains the cap-hit at all, or is there a minimum amount?
edit: ...and is it just me or is there an unusual amout of buy-outs this year?
That's why you saw Gomez, et al, getting bought out immediately after the lockout. It was a "free" buy out. This offseason you're just seeing more of the same.
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Blues sign Keith Aucoin and Maxime Lapierre. And the crowd goes wild........meanwhile
Jackets sign Nathan Horton.
good thing they aren't divisional rivals anymore
Jackets sign Nathan Horton.
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Lapierre 2 years $1.1 M per
Aucoin $675K 1 yr
also dealt Russel to Calgary for a 5th round pick.
Aucoin $675K 1 yr
also dealt Russel to Calgary for a 5th round pick.
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Might I direct you to this fine thread, good sir/madam:flyingnote38 wrote:Blues sign Keith Aucoin and Maxime Lapierre. And the crowd goes wild........meanwhile
Jackets sign Nathan Horton.
good thing they aren't divisional rivals anymore
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Anyone else think the return for Bobby Ryan was... not much?
A first rounder and two prospects? Maybe they're blue-chip prospects, I don't know, but I've never heard of them.
A first rounder and two prospects? Maybe they're blue-chip prospects, I don't know, but I've never heard of them.
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First of all I am SO happy Ryan isn't in our conference anymore, that fucker killed us.WaukeeBlues wrote:Anyone else think the return for Bobby Ryan was... not much?
A first rounder and two prospects? Maybe they're blue-chip prospects, I don't know, but I've never heard of them.
And yeah I would have given the ducks more for him.
There are some good players left like Derek Roy and Simon Gagne.
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Blues are pretty close to the cap actually.
plug in reasonable numbers for Petro, Stewie and Allen and the payroll is around $62m -$63 M.
search for offense more likely to be through a deal than a signing.
plug in reasonable numbers for Petro, Stewie and Allen and the payroll is around $62m -$63 M.
search for offense more likely to be through a deal than a signing.
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I suspect we'll move a goalie, probably Halak. That'll open some space up. I still think Halak + Perron for somebody makes sense. If we were to do that, the person we get in return would counteract that a great deal, but maybe not entirely.flyingnote38 wrote:Blues are pretty close to the cap actually.
plug in reasonable numbers for Petro, Stewie and Allen and the payroll is around $62m -$63 M.
search for offense more likely to be through a deal than a signing.
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Consider this: Why have we signed others and not Stewart and Pie, both of whom have done more and been more important to us than anyone else signed so far saved Shattenkirk? Anyone here with brain one, and that's all of us, would have signed Pie first. Did we?flyingnote38 wrote:Blues are pretty close to the cap actually.
plug in reasonable numbers for Petro, Stewie and Allen and the payroll is around $62m -$63 M.
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Why not? Well....
I have a bad feeling we'll make our move by moving them. Allen isn't going to cost us much and Halak is an injury case. No one is going to pay for him or give more than what we just signed in a trade. Set his numbers aside for a moment and consider: Would YOU take a chance on a injury case?
Exactly. So what do we have left of value to give for what we need?
Stewart and Pie. Those two plus maybe Perron or mayyyybe Halak and suddenly you got an Elite coming back to the Note.
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I was thinking similar things after the Roy signing, as we're spending money we seemingly don't have.
Dealing Petro would be a shocker, but he certainly is the one asset we have that could land a legitimate elite #1 center.
Dealing Petro would be a shocker, but he certainly is the one asset we have that could land a legitimate elite #1 center.
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It could also be the fact that, according to some things JR has said, the Blues and Petro are far apart on the money. Petro's camp is seeking near 7 mil per, the Blues are reluctant to go over 6. Meanwhile, it's been suggested that Stew and the Blues may end up in arbitration. So yes, I think we'd all have signed Petro first, but I think you are forgetting that fact that his and Stew's negotiations are probably going to be the toughest of them all. That's what you fail to mention.Oaklandblue wrote:Consider this: Why have we signed others and not Stewart and Pie, both of whom have done more and been more important to us than anyone else signed so far saved Shattenkirk? Anyone here with brain one, and that's all of us, would have signed Pie first. Did we?flyingnote38 wrote:Blues are pretty close to the cap actually.
plug in reasonable numbers for Petro, Stewie and Allen and the payroll is around $62m -$63 M.
search for offense more likely to be through a deal than a signing.
Why not? Well....
I have a bad feeling we'll make our move by moving them. Allen isn't going to cost us much and Halak is an injury case. No one is going to pay for him or give more than what we just signed in a trade. Set his numbers aside for a moment and consider: Would YOU take a chance on a injury case?
Exactly. So what do we have left of value to give for what we need?
Stewart and Pie. Those two plus maybe Perron or mayyyybe Halak and suddenly you got an Elite coming back to the Note.
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“I think we’re going to be able to get everyone under the umbrella,” Armstrong said, “and if need be, we have very valuable pieces — if we have to move players, that’s not going to be an issue finding a home for them.”
Don't see how $8 M of cap space will cover Petro and Stewart (let alone Allen).
Don't see how $8 M of cap space will cover Petro and Stewart (let alone Allen).
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Those two PLUS Perron or Halak? Armstrong would be run out of town if he traded Pie, Stewart AND Halak for one player no matter who that one player was.
Given our organizational depth at defense, I wouldn't be overly against trading Pie if the return was right. But a package of all 3 guys would have to net more than just an elite center in return.
Given our organizational depth at defense, I wouldn't be overly against trading Pie if the return was right. But a package of all 3 guys would have to net more than just an elite center in return.
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