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GDT #9: Blues vs Islanders | 7:00 pm CT | BSMW, 101 ESPN

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BLUES With the calendar flipped to November, the Blues are hoping to put their recent struggles behind them and turn the tide on the early days of their season. Their 5-1 loss vs. the Los Angeles Kings at Enterprise Center on Monday was a difficult one, leading to GM Doug Armstrong speaking to the team and then the media on Tuesday at Centene Community Ice Center.

"It's (been) ten percent of the season," said Armstrong. "So I don't want to overreact, but we certainly can't underreact... I believe in the coach, I believe in the system - this isn't a system issue, it's a competitive issue... I do believe in this group."

The offense that electrified a season ago has gone cold to start the year, with the Blues ranking last in the NHL in goals-scored-per-game thus far. With eight 20-goal scorers from 2021-22 still on the roster, it would seem like only a matter of time before the goals start flowing again.

The Blues host the Islanders on Thursday to wrap up their three-game - and four out of five - homestand before a two-game road trip in Boston and Philadelphia next week.

Currently, their record of 3-5-0 is worth six points and eighth place in the Central Division.

ISLANDERS The New York Islanders are off to a solid start, continuing their strong second half from last season. An 11-game losing streak last November effectively ended their season before it could get going, and they ended up the first team outside the Eastern Conference playoff picture.

The Islanders are on an active four-game win streak heading into Thursday's game in St. Louis, including an impressive win over the Colorado Avalanche on Oct. 29. Trailing 3-0 midway through the second period, New York scored five unanswered goals for a comeback win over the defending champions.

Ilya Sorokin has been red hot between the pipes during this recent stretch, winning his last three starts and stopping 95 out of 98 shots faced. Among NHL goaltenders who have started at least five games this year, Sorokin ranks No. 3 in goals-against average (2.04) and No. 4 in save percentage (.935) as of Wendesday afternoon.

New York brings a 6-4-0 record to Enterprise Center, worth 12 points and fourth place in the Metropolitan Division.

HEAD-TO-HEAD The Blues went 1-1-0 against the Islanders last season, with each team winning on their home ice. The Blues have won their last two matchups at Enterprise Center, including a 6-1 win on April 9 last season.

PLAYERS TO WATCH
BLUES Vladimir Tarasenko, who is slated to dress in his 615th career game and will surpass Barclay Plager for 12th on the Blues all-time leaderboard. In 15 career games against the Islanders, Tarasenko has nine goals and six assists for 15 total points.

ISLANDERS Mathew Barzal, who agreed to an eight-year, $73.2 million contract extension with the Islanders during training camp this year. Still looking for his first goal, the 25-year-old forward shares No. 7 in the NHL with 10 assists this season.

BLUE NOTES
Thomas Greiss and Nick Leddy were members of the Islanders in 2018-19 when Greiss and Robin Lehner won the Jennings Trophy as the goaltenders on the team with the fewest goals allowed in a season... Greiss played five seasons and 193 games as an Islander, and Leddy played seven seasons and 518 games... Leddy scored one of his two goals as a Blue last season in the April 9 game against his former club... The Blues have given up just five first-period goals this season, sharing fourth fewest in the NHL.
Skidding Blues look to knock down surging Islanders

The New York Islanders and St. Louis Blues are traveling in opposite directions heading into their game Thursday night.

The streaking Islanders have won four straight games while the slumping Blues have recorded five consecutive regulation losses for the first time since February of 2018.

New York opened its three-game road trip with a 3-1 victory Tuesday at Chicago. The Blues, who fell to Los Angeles 5-1 Monday, will cap a three-game homestand when the Islanders pay a visit.

First-year Islanders coach Lane Lambert is pleased with the state of his team.

"I liked our compete, and I liked our battle," Lambert said after his team dispatched the Blackhawks. "I thought going down a centerman early in the game, the guys showed a lot of resolve, guys who played in some unfamiliar areas. I thought they picked up the slack."

The Islanders had to adjust to losing center Casey Cizkas, who exited with a game misconduct for goaltender interference against Chicago. Also, the Islanders were missing forward Matt Martin, who took a paternity leave.

But depth has been one of the Islanders' strengths this season. They have seven players with three or more goals through 10 games, with Brock Nelson (four goals, seven assists) and Anders Lee (five goals, five assists) setting the pace. Mathew Barzal (10 assists) also is playing well.

Meanwhile, the Blues have been outscored 25-8 during their downturn while struggling in all facets of the game. Captain Ryan O'Reilly (one goal, no assists, minus-11 rating) and Jordan Kyrou (three goals, no assists, minus-13) have had an especially hard time.

"We're not direct," Blues coach Craig Berube said. "And if you're not direct, and you're not predictable, and you're not hungry, and you're not desperate out there, if you don't want to dig in and play hard, you're gonna get beat. I don't care what team you're playing. You'll get beat. And that's got to change."

Blues general manager Doug Armstrong addressed the team Tuesday and sounded a clear warning.

"We need to make sure that this is ground zero and start making our way up," Armstrong said. "And what I said to the players -- we may or may not win on Thursday. Obviously, we're in the winning business, but what we need to see is a competitive level higher than what we have now."

If Armstrong doesn't see progress, the roster could be due for an overhaul.

"Everyone (has) the term retooling, rebuilding," Armstrong said. "Whatever 're' is, it sucks. I don't want to be a 're' anything. I want to continue what we're doing now, and again, it's very self-serving because I put this together. But we're not in the belief business, we're in the winning business."

Blues winger Brandon Saad remains out of action with an upper-body injury. He is listed as day-to-day and did not practice Wednesday.

Martin is listed as day-to-day for the Islanders, but Lambert does expect him to return from paternity leave sometime during the team's road trip.
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Tarasenko should start cozying up with the Islanders, he'll be teammates with them in a few months.

End the damn schneid!

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Shits as predictable as the sunrise.
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Must suck to be the radio announcers having to constantly put a positive spin on the game as it just gets worse by the minute. :shock:

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Here's your positive spin. The 2023 draft looks like it has a couple of can't miss prospects at the top.
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Very little to say.

While the whole team is sucking, I have no idea why Pitlick is even on this team. Can't pass, does hard arounds to no one on entries, can't shoot, skates super slow. WTF is up with just signing veteran bodies who suck and not promoting AHLers.
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I understand the need for some level of restraint and that it’s only 9 games but the schedule doesn’t get any easier. If the wheels are still falling off come the beginning of December Army has a very easy decision to make: trade O’Reilly and Tarasenko for sure, try to secure good picks and prospects, try to trade Parayko and I know the NTC makes that a bit tougher but it’s not out of the realm of possibility. Krug also, if possible.

Last time the blues sucked in December they decided to stick with it and we all know what happened. That lightning ain’t striking again. The best thing to do would be to pile up picks and prospects and give some nhl experience to guys like Tucker, Kessel, Alexandrov for sure maybe McGing. Next season get Bolduc in, maybe Snuggerud makes some noise in camp.

Get some of the young d a year in Springfield… Loof, Beck, Galloway and Buchinger I think he’ll be eligible for the AHL next season though I’m not looking at ages and eligibility right now. Get Robertsson over to America, get Dylan Petersen on the Springfield roster, Hopefully Dickinson makes a full recovery and can put up solid numbers for the T-Birds.

Goon will blast me for asking for a rebuild but he knows and so does everyone else that this team is a bunch of overpaid primadonas and rebuilding is probably necessary. Hell, I’d trade Kyrou tomorrow if he had any value. He’ll be a hard one to get rid of though between his contract and his performance.
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Back when Kyrou got his contract I said he hadn't proven he has the ability to sustain that level of performance and it would be more beneficial to the team to shop him while his value was as high as it was likely to ever be. Especially combined with the apparent decision to let Perron walk. Thomas and Kyrou will never reach the level of O'Reilly/Perron, and it was a horrible decision on the part of management to put their money there.
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I think a lot of guys got their money and checked out, and this is where you can differentiate who has heart and who doesn’t. Kyrou clearly doesn’t. Parayko, I defended him last season when a lot of others weren’t but those good feelings are running out fast.

As far as Binnington goes, he made his money off of one good half season. Yeah it was a half season for the ages but it was a half season no matter how you cut it. He’s an average goalie at best and a hothead at the worst. I’d like my goalies to be a little more composed.

I hate to say it but it’s on Berube to get them to play, if they’re not playing it’s on him to sit their asses. It’s on Army to ship them out if they’re not pulling their weight. I do feel like they quit on chief but I don’t know why.
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If this team doesn't get their crap straight pronto, they are 100% in on the Bedard sweepstakes. Playing 4 games a week for the next 3 weeks 12 games in 19 days is going to determine if this team has any hope of even being a playoff team, which is flipping ridiculous to say considering how much offense this team produced last season and they are only minus 1 player of those top 9.

What's disgusting to see is how easily opponents are posting up for those backdoor plays handily beating Blues defenseman to quality locations or just shoving them out of the way.
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A major collapse might do this team some good. They really could use a superstar, especially given that Tarasenko will 99.9% not be back. Building around Bedard could serve them well.

That said, they’ll semi-right the ship and end up with maybe the 14th overall pick missing out by a mile on both Bedard and Fantilli.
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