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I think his time is done here. My guess is that he's deciding between retirement and asking to be released.
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If Brodeur is looking for one last shot of glory, he won't find it anywhere else but here. We're built to make a run and god knows he can backstop us if all else fails. At first I wasn't quite hip on the guy, and he doesn't have much left in the tank, but if I had to choose him or Allen right now to backup Ells this season, it'd be Marty.
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I would too, but we all know we can't send Allen down- he would have to clear waivers, which wouldn't happen. Whatchagonnado?Oaklandblue wrote:If Brodeur is looking for one last shot of glory, he won't find it anywhere else but here. We're built to make a run and god knows he can backstop us if all else fails. At first I wasn't quite hip on the guy, and he doesn't have much left in the tank, but if I had to choose him or Allen right now to backup Ells this season, it'd be Marty.
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I would choose Allen over Brodeur. I mean, Brodeur will have less "WTF moments" than Allen. But, you don't build a Cup team through the backup goalie. Allen needs experience at the NHL level and any benefit that Brodeur brings over Allen this season (which is marginal, at best) is lost longterm by stunting Allen's growth. I wouldn't put Allen in the AHL even if we could.
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I hope he stays because I want to see him win #700 with us and I'd love the narrative to end with him hoisting the Stanley Cup with us.
But I also get that he's a competitor, one of the greatest of all time, and the press box experience can't be all that appealing to him. If he wants to play regularly, it's not happening here, so he should move on.
But I also get that he's a competitor, one of the greatest of all time, and the press box experience can't be all that appealing to him. If he wants to play regularly, it's not happening here, so he should move on.
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We have to at least give him the opportunity to get his 700 wins. 700 sounds much cleaner in the record books than 695 or 696. 700 wins would be monumental, and in today's NHL, he'll probably the only goalie in NHL history who has a potential to reach that. Don't quit when you're so close!
(I'm still baffled why Gretzky stopped at 894 goals instead of playing till he reached 900. And Gretzky retired relatively early, too (38). Had he just played one more season, he would have easily reached 900, let alone playing as long as Brodeur and Chelios and reaching about 920).
I hate to do things just for the record books, but maybe we can play him against poor teams. He did get a shutout just recently, and despite him not being the Brodeur he was 10 years ago, he's not a bad a goalie by any means.
(I'm still baffled why Gretzky stopped at 894 goals instead of playing till he reached 900. And Gretzky retired relatively early, too (38). Had he just played one more season, he would have easily reached 900, let alone playing as long as Brodeur and Chelios and reaching about 920).
I hate to do things just for the record books, but maybe we can play him against poor teams. He did get a shutout just recently, and despite him not being the Brodeur he was 10 years ago, he's not a bad a goalie by any means.
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We don't have to do anything other than put our best team on the ice every night. He's not owed crap by this franchise or any other. Sorry he didn't make it to 700... guess he should have played better earlier in his career.xbleed83bluex wrote:We have to at least give him the opportunity to get his 700 wins. 700 sounds much cleaner in the record books than 695 or 696. 700 wins would be monumental, and in today's NHL, he'll probably the only goalie in NHL history who has a potential to reach that. Don't quit when you're so close!
(I'm still baffled why Gretzky stopped at 894 goals instead of playing till he reached 900. And Gretzky retired relatively early, too (38). Had he just played one more season, he would have easily reached 900, let alone playing as long as Brodeur and Chelios and reaching about 920).
I hate to do things just for the record books, but maybe we can play him against poor teams. He did get a shutout just recently, and despite him not being the Brodeur he was 10 years ago, he's not a bad a goalie by any means.
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Agree that it's not our concern to get him to 700, but saying Brodeur should have played better earlier in his career is pretty funny.not_a_wings_fan wrote:We don't have to do anything other than put our best team on the ice every night. He's not owed crap by this franchise or any other. Sorry he didn't make it to 700... guess he should have played better earlier in his career.xbleed83bluex wrote:We have to at least give him the opportunity to get his 700 wins. 700 sounds much cleaner in the record books than 695 or 696. 700 wins would be monumental, and in today's NHL, he'll probably the only goalie in NHL history who has a potential to reach that. Don't quit when you're so close!
(I'm still baffled why Gretzky stopped at 894 goals instead of playing till he reached 900. And Gretzky retired relatively early, too (38). Had he just played one more season, he would have easily reached 900, let alone playing as long as Brodeur and Chelios and reaching about 920).
I hate to do things just for the record books, but maybe we can play him against poor teams. He did get a shutout just recently, and despite him not being the Brodeur he was 10 years ago, he's not a bad a goalie by any means.
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Not me.Oaklandblue wrote:If Brodeur is looking for one last shot of glory, he won't find it anywhere else but here. We're built to make a run and god knows he can backstop us if all else fails. At first I wasn't quite hip on the guy, and he doesn't have much left in the tank, but if I had to choose him or Allen right now to backup Ells this season, it'd be Marty.
Brodeur has been ok and all...but Allen is the backup on this team.
I enjoyed watching Brodeur in moderation, but I'm thinking he's done here. If Allen and Elliott are both healthy, he isn't going to be playing at all.
If he wants to stick around and be an advisor, I'm sure the organization would love to have him in that capacity. But I'm thinking if he does take on that kind of role, he'd prefer to do so in New Jersey. But that's just a guess on my part.
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It's just a fact...he needed to play just a few games better over his career if he wanted 700 because he's too old and slow now.cardsfan04 wrote:Agree that it's not our concern to get him to 700, but saying Brodeur should have played better earlier in his career is pretty funny.not_a_wings_fan wrote:We don't have to do anything other than put our best team on the ice every night. He's not owed crap by this franchise or any other. Sorry he didn't make it to 700... guess he should have played better earlier in his career.xbleed83bluex wrote:We have to at least give him the opportunity to get his 700 wins. 700 sounds much cleaner in the record books than 695 or 696. 700 wins would be monumental, and in today's NHL, he'll probably the only goalie in NHL history who has a potential to reach that. Don't quit when you're so close!
(I'm still baffled why Gretzky stopped at 894 goals instead of playing till he reached 900. And Gretzky retired relatively early, too (38). Had he just played one more season, he would have easily reached 900, let alone playing as long as Brodeur and Chelios and reaching about 920).
I hate to do things just for the record books, but maybe we can play him against poor teams. He did get a shutout just recently, and despite him not being the Brodeur he was 10 years ago, he's not a bad a goalie by any means.
Granted, he played amazing in his career, but I bet if you asked him he could rattle off the goals he should have stopped that would have put him at 700 wins. Seriously, I am sure he has a mental list of his biggest gaffs that cost his team wins.
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I hear ya and don't disagree from a technical standpoint. Every player could have done things better in his career. Still funny to hear, "If (arguably) the greatest ever had only been a little bit better . . ."not_a_wings_fan wrote:It's just a fact...he needed to play just a few games better over his career if he wanted 700 because he's too old and slow now.cardsfan04 wrote:Agree that it's not our concern to get him to 700, but saying Brodeur should have played better earlier in his career is pretty funny.not_a_wings_fan wrote:We don't have to do anything other than put our best team on the ice every night. He's not owed crap by this franchise or any other. Sorry he didn't make it to 700... guess he should have played better earlier in his career.xbleed83bluex wrote:We have to at least give him the opportunity to get his 700 wins. 700 sounds much cleaner in the record books than 695 or 696. 700 wins would be monumental, and in today's NHL, he'll probably the only goalie in NHL history who has a potential to reach that. Don't quit when you're so close!
(I'm still baffled why Gretzky stopped at 894 goals instead of playing till he reached 900. And Gretzky retired relatively early, too (38). Had he just played one more season, he would have easily reached 900, let alone playing as long as Brodeur and Chelios and reaching about 920).
I hate to do things just for the record books, but maybe we can play him against poor teams. He did get a shutout just recently, and despite him not being the Brodeur he was 10 years ago, he's not a bad a goalie by any means.
Granted, he played amazing in his career, but I bet if you asked him he could rattle off the goals he should have stopped that would have put him at 700 wins. Seriously, I am sure he has a mental list of his biggest gaffs that cost his team wins.
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Blues should try to unload him on New Jersey. They're going nowhere and would be more likely to get him to 700 than the Blues. Trade him for future considerations or some BS to give him a shot.
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I'll never fully forgive Brodeur for one particular goal by Stephane Matteau.
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Which one of the two in that series?glen a richter wrote:I'll never fully forgive Brodeur for one particular goal by Stephane Matteau.
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I'd blame three lockouts for why Marty hasn't gone over 700 wins long before his playing ability. He has proven how good he is. On paper everyone is second best to him.cardsfan04 wrote:I hear ya and don't disagree from a technical standpoint. Every player could have done things better in his career. Still funny to hear, "If (arguably) the greatest ever had only been a little bit better . . ."not_a_wings_fan wrote:It's just a fact...he needed to play just a few games better over his career if he wanted 700 because he's too old and slow now.cardsfan04 wrote:Agree that it's not our concern to get him to 700, but saying Brodeur should have played better earlier in his career is pretty funny.not_a_wings_fan wrote:We don't have to do anything other than put our best team on the ice every night. He's not owed crap by this franchise or any other. Sorry he didn't make it to 700... guess he should have played better earlier in his career.xbleed83bluex wrote:We have to at least give him the opportunity to get his 700 wins. 700 sounds much cleaner in the record books than 695 or 696. 700 wins would be monumental, and in today's NHL, he'll probably the only goalie in NHL history who has a potential to reach that. Don't quit when you're so close!
(I'm still baffled why Gretzky stopped at 894 goals instead of playing till he reached 900. And Gretzky retired relatively early, too (38). Had he just played one more season, he would have easily reached 900, let alone playing as long as Brodeur and Chelios and reaching about 920).
I hate to do things just for the record books, but maybe we can play him against poor teams. He did get a shutout just recently, and despite him not being the Brodeur he was 10 years ago, he's not a bad a goalie by any means.
Granted, he played amazing in his career, but I bet if you asked him he could rattle off the goals he should have stopped that would have put him at 700 wins. Seriously, I am sure he has a mental list of his biggest gaffs that cost his team wins.
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^ that's actually a very fair and accurate point.
So I will amend my previous statement... "If the damn CBA hadn't f'ed everything up..."
So I will amend my previous statement... "If the damn CBA hadn't f'ed everything up..."
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The series clincher. The sound of "Matteau, Matteau, STEPHANE MATTEAU!" is burned into my memory forever and it's horrible and unpleasant. Seeing all those positively giddy Ranger fans was nauseating. It just got worse after that, though.not_a_wings_fan wrote:Which one of the two in that series?glen a richter wrote:I'll never fully forgive Brodeur for one particular goal by Stephane Matteau.
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Allen is a good backup but I don't see him ever becoming a #1 on a good team. If it was a straight up choice of who do you want in net behind Elliott with no thought of contracts etc., Brodeur would have my vote even at the ripe old age of 42. Experience alone gives him the edge plus the ability to mentor Elliott every game is priceless.
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