GDT #33: 12/20/14 | 9:30PM CST | @ Sharks | FSMW/KMOX

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The St. Louis Blues look to rebound quickly after a deflating end to a five-game win streak. A matchup with the red-hot San Jose Sharks could make that extremely challenging.

Winners of four in a row, the Sharks seek an eighth straight home win and a fourth consecutive victory over the Blues on Saturday night.

St. Louis (21-9-2) couldn't stop Los Angeles after scoring the first three goals in Thursday's opener to a three-game trip. The Kings pulled away for good with three goals in the third period in a 6-4 victory.

"It shows us that it's a full 60-minute game. If you let your foot off the gas or don't play the right way for a little bit of time, all of a sudden a good team will make you pay," captain David Backes said.

The Blues have the daunting task of facing a San Jose team that's won eight of nine and is outscoring opponents 13-6 during its win streak. The Sharks (18-11-4) needed a pair of goals in the third period - from unlikely sources - to put away Edmonton in a 4-3 victory Thursday.

Defenseman Matt Tennyson's first NHL goal was the tying one and Barclay Goodrow followed with his second in 17 career games.

"We got better as we went, but obviously it took us too long to get going for a home game and for how we want to play," center Joe Pavelski said.

The Sharks have outscored their last seven visitors 28-15 and are seeking their longest single-season home win streak since a nine-game run to start 2008-09.

San Jose is facing the Blues for the first time since winning all three meetings last season. A 6-3 win Nov. 29, 2013, ended a five-game home losing streak to the Blues that included the 2012 playoffs. Sharks defenseman Brent Burns registered his only career hat trick in that victory, and has five goals and two assists in his last four matchups.

Joe Thornton, who had a string of three consecutive multipoint games snapped Thursday, has five goals and 10 assists in his last nine games against the Blues - including the playoffs.

This matchup features two of the league's best power plays with St. Louis converting at 25.4 percent and San Jose at 24.2. The Blues are 7 for 13 (53.8 percent) with a man advantage in the last six games but have given opponents a combined 18 power plays in the past three contests, resulting in five goals.

San Jose has killed off 14 of 15 penalties in its last seven games.

St. Louis' Vladimir Tarasenko has been one of the league's hottest players with eight goals and six assists in his past 10 contests, including a hat trick in a 5-2 win against Los Angeles on Tuesday. He has one goal in four career matchups with San Jose.

Pavelski has seven goals and three assists in his last 12 games, and had two goals and two assists in last season's series. Logan Couture, who has six goals and six assists in his past 13 games, has two goals and four assists in his last five versus the Blues.
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Back to winning boys, come on!

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Seafood dinnah boyz, eat up!

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Frank goes boom, Bergy accidentally scores a goal and Ott picks up assists like a mofo tonight.
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OTT JUST SCORED A GOAL!!! This is not a test.
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Bergy and Ott not only scored, but in the same game, in the same period, on the west coast....holy jumpin' indeed.
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Hey, but who needs goal scorers, amirite? Maybe Dougie can get Ken Dryden out of retirement next rather than someone who might actually help this team.
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Allen was amazing.

Bergy and Ott came to the show. That alone declares this game a fluke.

Pie....Pie....Pie..... :cry: If there's one person I want to see make an inspired comeback....
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Nyghtewynd wrote:Hey, but who needs goal scorers, amirite? Maybe Dougie can get Ken Dryden out of retirement next rather than someone who might actually help this team.
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Thought that Steen was back. But he played like garbage lastnight.
No PP's, couple missed calls.
And Pie, again getting in the damn way.
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All of the above, plus what's up with Oshie trying to be all Perron-like?
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I told y'all Petro was a highly overrated pansy.

Trade him now while he has maximum value.
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I'm laying this one on the coaches. They broke up Pietro and Bouwmeester because they were "snake bit" and kept having goals against when on the ice together. So, after all game keeping them apart, game on the line in the final two minutes, put them back together???? Ooops!!!! Goal Against to tie the game in the final minute. Oh.. it's OT and the Sharks are on the power play. These two together just got scored against again ad the end of regulation, so..... Put them on the ice together again???? Yep - Goal Against loss after a solid effort when they WERE APART all but the final 2 minutes of regulation and the PK in OT. Idiot coaches. When you do something and it works, DON"T GO BACK TO WHAT WAS NOT WORKING!!!!

Yes, players take blame for not playing well enough, but when coaches say things - stick to your damn guns!!!

They really need to keep Pietro and Bouwmeester apart. Butler is solid defensively and that's what the team needs in a late game one goal situation or an OT PK. Not two more-offensive minded defenseman.
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theohall wrote:I'm laying this one on the coaches. They broke up Pietro and Bouwmeester because they were "snake bit" and kept having goals against when on the ice together. So, after all game keeping them apart, game on the line in the final two minutes, put them back together???? Ooops!!!! Goal Against to tie the game in the final minute. Oh.. it's OT and the Sharks are on the power play. These two together just got scored against again ad the end of regulation, so..... Put them on the ice together again???? Yep - Goal Against loss after a solid effort when they WERE APART all but the final 2 minutes of regulation and the PK in OT. Idiot coaches. When you do something and it works, DON"T GO BACK TO WHAT WAS NOT WORKING!!!!

Yes, players take blame for not playing well enough, but when coaches say things - stick to your damn guns!!!

They really need to keep Pietro and Bouwmeester apart. Butler is solid defensively and that's what the team needs in a late game one goal situation or an OT PK. Not two more-offensive minded defenseman.
That seems like the kind of thing that when it does work, Hitch would get praised for keeping faith in them or something. For the most part, they have had great chemistry together since Bouwmeester arrived. Pietro has made some boneheaded plays of late, but those plays didn't have anything to do with who he was paired with. I don't really have a problem with Hitch using 2 of our top 3 defensemen when the game is on the line, especially when the suggested alternative is our 6th DMan, and only 6th because of a concussion to another.
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Just because two guys are the best d-men individually does not mean they are the best pairing. It seems they used to be, but are not right now.
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theohall wrote:Just because two guys are the best d-men individually does not mean they are the best pairing. It seems they used to be, but are not right now.
As far as Petro is concerned, it has nothing to do with who his partner is. His F-ups are all on him.
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goon attack wrote:I told y'all Petro was a highly overrated pansy.

Trade him now while he has maximum value.
His value is currently at its nadir, actually. There's no hiding from that -10. If I'm an opposing GM, sure I'll take him off your hands now...for the dregs of my farm system and a second rounder. What? You want more? He's minus ten. Go ahead and shop him.

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ecbm wrote:
goon attack wrote:I told y'all Petro was a highly overrated pansy.

Trade him now while he has maximum value.
His value is currently at its nadir, actually. There's no hiding from that -10. If I'm an opposing GM, sure I'll take him off your hands now...for the dregs of my farm system and a second rounder. What? You want more? He's minus ten. Go ahead and shop him.
Yeah...I dunno.
If a team wants him, and a LOT of teams would... his play this season isn't going to hurt his value that much. He is still in the "his best days are ahead of him" stage of his career.
A crappy +/- for this small sample size won't mean much to someone who wants him. And, of course, it all depends on how many teams would want him...bidding war and all.

But let's be honest...he isn't going anywhere.
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cprice12 wrote:If a team wants him, and a LOT of teams would...
You're right. Any team looking to acquire him will think he's currently on a bad run and his real level is what we've seen the last couple seasons. The reason they'd try to strike now, and especially if he's put on the market, is that they'd think the Blues' FO is down on him due to his recent play and may make the mistake of undervaluing him in a trade. That is, they'd have leverage. That's the only reason a team would be interested in him now. One necessarily doesn't get a premium return in those situations. No way I'd shop him. If I were going to do that, I'd wait for his form to improve (but then why trade him, right?) or the deadline.

Of course, I wouldn't trade him at all. I don't see a difference-making player coming in for him. This team doesn't need more draft picks or prospects. It needs to ice a team that can win NOW.

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