MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trade
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Uhh, trade Berglund for Eberle? Yes, please. You want Ott too? Ok.
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
Heck, I'd throw Oshie in too, for good measure. Maybe for a 3-rd rounder from EDM. Recall Jaskin in his place.ViPeRx007 wrote:Uhh, trade Berglund for Eberle? Yes, please. You want Ott too? Ok.
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
This exact trade, Ott+Berglund for Eberle, was mentioned in an article I just read. Seems we're not the only ones on that wavelength. That would be highway robbery plus a little cap space. It's getting interesting now.
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
It looks like robbery, but if it fills their needs then it's the right deal for them...and us.
The two teams are in very different places.
Bergie has been pretty good defensively and I think his hands would show in a more offensive system. He's really used in a checking role right now. I look at it like when Conroy went to Calgary. I wouldn't be upset if that happened because I don't see a place for Bergie on this team.
Ott is a well respected veteran and I think his defensive play and attitude would help that team, which is pretty young (edit: looking at it, they really aren't all that young - just play like it).
I could see a situation where there is a defensive prospect/draft picks traded in the deal as well. EDM has made no secret that they are not happy with their back end and down the middle of the ice, and turning over their roster to do it seems like a good play sooner rather than later.
I would LOVE for this deal to go down and I think EDM would feel pretty similar.
The two teams are in very different places.
Bergie has been pretty good defensively and I think his hands would show in a more offensive system. He's really used in a checking role right now. I look at it like when Conroy went to Calgary. I wouldn't be upset if that happened because I don't see a place for Bergie on this team.
Ott is a well respected veteran and I think his defensive play and attitude would help that team, which is pretty young (edit: looking at it, they really aren't all that young - just play like it).
I could see a situation where there is a defensive prospect/draft picks traded in the deal as well. EDM has made no secret that they are not happy with their back end and down the middle of the ice, and turning over their roster to do it seems like a good play sooner rather than later.
I would LOVE for this deal to go down and I think EDM would feel pretty similar.
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I don't know if there is any truth to these rumors but I am watching EDM - NSH right now and Berglund would be a big, big upgrade for the Oilers.
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I'd be a big upgrade for the oilers and I haven't played since high school, and roller hockey at that, not even ice.
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
I doubt that they'd do Berglund + Ott for Eberle, even if Eberle is underachieving. Eberle is 24 with a shitton of upside. I think they'll want more especially if they want a top line center for Perron (which is pretty hilarious).
That said, Eberle's photo on wikipedia is from Scottrade.
That said, Eberle's photo on wikipedia is from Scottrade.
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
I don't doubt they'd do it. Everything Kevin Lowe has touched in Edmonton has been a disaster, and every decision has been misguided. People around here rag on Garth Snow for making "stupid trades" but the Islanders are cleaning up in the east right now. Lowe, on the other hand, is hands down the worst executive in the league, and the Oilers are the most mismanaged team in recent memory.
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I would love it if Berglund scored a hat trick tonight, and hopefully Armstrong is having a nice chat with MacTavish while it all happens...
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
I think they need to invite Army to the booth on FSMW. Everytime he has a chat with Panger and JK, good things happen on the ice. That or a trade is about to, or just happened. So maybe let's combine both tonight, eh?ViPeRx007 wrote:I would love it if Berglund scored a hat trick tonight, and hopefully Armstrong is having a nice chat with MacTavish while it all happens...
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
It actually makes the most sense to do the trade after the game. Don't upset the apple cart. Inserting Eberle into the lineup without any practice time could have a negative effect on the chemistry.
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I don't see that much chemistry outside of the STL line. There's not that much speed either. A young and talented winger wouldn't hurt. That said, I don't think they have to get Eberle. I'd be ok with them getting picks/prospects for Berglund, Ott or Lindstrom and letting Jaskin play.glen a richter wrote:It actually makes the most sense to do the trade after the game. Don't upset the apple cart. Inserting Eberle into the lineup without any practice time could have a negative effect on the chemistry.
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
I think Jaskin and Rattie are being Cole'ed. Some highish expectations only to go by the way side when all is said and done. Cole will never play up to his draft position, nor will Jaskin and Rattie.
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I wouldn't throw in Oshie in that deal. Dude is far too valuable in all situations.ComradeT wrote:Heck, I'd throw Oshie in too, for good measure. Maybe for a 3-rd rounder from EDM. Recall Jaskin in his place.ViPeRx007 wrote:Uhh, trade Berglund for Eberle? Yes, please. You want Ott too? Ok.
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I think Cole has shown nice improvement this year from prior stints. He has a ways to go yet, but he's still young.glen a richter wrote:I think Jaskin and Rattie are being Cole'ed. Some highish expectations only to go by the way side when all is said and done. Cole will never play up to his draft position, nor will Jaskin and Rattie.
I was down on him last year...but not so much anymore.
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
Call me a flopper but I think you're right, especially since he came into his own a bit more. He had a slow start to the season, injury, etc., but he's back.cprice12 wrote:I wouldn't throw in Oshie in that deal. Dude is far too valuable in all situations.ComradeT wrote:Heck, I'd throw Oshie in too, for good measure. Maybe for a 3-rd rounder from EDM. Recall Jaskin in his place.ViPeRx007 wrote:Uhh, trade Berglund for Eberle? Yes, please. You want Ott too? Ok.
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Re: MacTavish wants 'top center' for DP/STL-EDM Talking Trad
I see the 2-minutes hate for Perron is still popular.
If you wouldn't trade Berglund and Ott for him, you're a GM with whom I'd like to make deals.
Perron's being shopped because he's one of few players on their roster who has value but whom they don't consider untouchable because he isn't a center or D (where they have no depth at all). Yes, a guy with three 20 goal seasons under his belt at age 26 who makes $3M per ($.7 less a year than Berglund) generates interest, especially if you don't harbor an irrational hate for the guy. Weren't people here going soft on Dale Hunter recently? How many points would Perron have to score for any of you guys to vote HIM into the HoF?
And the Eberle thing, while a nice thing to consider, seems like utter speculation. Everything I've read about it traces back to the same Edmonton journalist who doesn't seem to have even taken a peek at the Blues' cap situation. So we pick up Eberle now and...what? Encourage #91 to look at offer sheets? Trade a couple top-6 forwards? Move a top-4 Dman and hope one of the kids (who so far have merited no ice time at all) is good enough to cover? Nah, I'd give them Berglund for a draft pick or lower-level prospect. It would certainly be ironic if we got more from them for Berglund than we did for Perron.
If you wouldn't trade Berglund and Ott for him, you're a GM with whom I'd like to make deals.
Perron's being shopped because he's one of few players on their roster who has value but whom they don't consider untouchable because he isn't a center or D (where they have no depth at all). Yes, a guy with three 20 goal seasons under his belt at age 26 who makes $3M per ($.7 less a year than Berglund) generates interest, especially if you don't harbor an irrational hate for the guy. Weren't people here going soft on Dale Hunter recently? How many points would Perron have to score for any of you guys to vote HIM into the HoF?
And the Eberle thing, while a nice thing to consider, seems like utter speculation. Everything I've read about it traces back to the same Edmonton journalist who doesn't seem to have even taken a peek at the Blues' cap situation. So we pick up Eberle now and...what? Encourage #91 to look at offer sheets? Trade a couple top-6 forwards? Move a top-4 Dman and hope one of the kids (who so far have merited no ice time at all) is good enough to cover? Nah, I'd give them Berglund for a draft pick or lower-level prospect. It would certainly be ironic if we got more from them for Berglund than we did for Perron.