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Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:46 am
by ecbm
glen a richter wrote:Newark may be in New Jersey but its a stones throw from NYC, as is Nassau County. While Long Island is not part of the city its close enough for us to attempt competing with NYC culture, so proximity wise you can fairly say the geographic area does "support" 3 teams
Don't disagreep-my point is that if you're considering all that area, you have to consider the population of LI and northern Jersey-it expands the potential fanbase considerably. That catchment area has more population than all but 6/7 states.
glen a richter wrote:If I was in favor of expanding the league, which I'm most certainly not, I'd push to right some wrongs first. That means moving (not expanding) teams out of the south. Phoenix can move to Quebec City instead of expanding there, Florida can move to Hamilton instead of expanding there. Carolina can move back to Hartford, Tampa Bay can move to Saskatoon, Nashville can move to Seattle and Dallas can move to Kansas City. Then we can talk about what to do with possibly expanding to some colder climate markets like Indianapolis or even Southern Alaska though I'm sure the travel would be hell.
In a perfect world...but moving basket-case, fanless PHX and FLA to QC and...somewhere else-KC, Seattle, wherever-that shouldn't be such a problem.
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:42 am
by ComradeT
JesusNEVERexisted wrote:glen a richter wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:I agree it's not a great idea. They have be careful of over saturation .
Quebec City and Seattle deserve teams but not 2 teams in Toronto or 2 teams in Minnesota.
2 teams in Minnesota? Las Vegas, Minnesota? You suck at geography too.
WRONG! You can't read retard! They have talked about adding another team in the Toronto area and another team in Minnesota so I said no to that!
There's nothing in the article about a second team in Minnesota, dude. So what are you talking about?
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:22 pm
by STLADOGG
JesusNEVERexisted wrote:glen a richter wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:I agree it's not a great idea. They have be careful of over saturation .
Quebec City and Seattle deserve teams but not 2 teams in Toronto or 2 teams in Minnesota.
2 teams in Minnesota? Las Vegas, Minnesota? You suck at geography too.
WRONG! You can't read retard! They have talked about adding another team in the Toronto area and another team in Minnesota so I said no to that!
RetardsNEVERExisted
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:46 pm
by WaukeeBlues
1) I feel like all the hockey fans in Seattle are already Canucks fans
2) I feel like all the hockey fans in Toronto are already Maple Leafs fans
3) Las Vegas doesn't have hockey fans
4) Quebec? I'm okay with that.
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:55 pm
by F Keenan
STLADOGG wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:glen a richter wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:I agree it's not a great idea. They have be careful of over saturation .
Quebec City and Seattle deserve teams but not 2 teams in Toronto or 2 teams in Minnesota.
2 teams in Minnesota? Las Vegas, Minnesota? You suck at geography too.
WRONG! You can't read retard! They have talked about adding another team in the Toronto area and another team in Minnesota so I said no to that!
RetardsNEVERExisted
It's possible this imbecile isn't aware that the North Stars moved to Dallas?
Is that the problem Jesus? Did you miss the Dallas Stars like you missed the Arch on the Blues third sweater? We understand.
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:13 pm
by glen a richter
Jne you flipping imbecile, the article said they were scoping out Target Field for an outdoor game, not a second team in Minnesota. Did you go to school, stupid?
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:26 pm
by Toasted Oates
What's the over/under on Jesus making another comment in this thread?
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:49 pm
by glen a richter
Toasted Oates wrote:What's the over/under on Jesus making another comment in this thread?
God only knows...
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:21 pm
by STLADOGG
Toasted Oates wrote:What's the over/under on Jesus making another comment in this thread?
Tough one, for him to rise again and go onto the internet may be a far fetched idea, but if he did go online I guarantee this would be his first site to log into.
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:50 am
by Jesus
Toasted Oates wrote:What's the over/under on Jesus making another comment in this thread?
Someone say my name?
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:50 am
by glen a richter
Jesus wrote:Toasted Oates wrote:What's the over/under on Jesus making another comment in this thread?
Someone say my name?
HeDOESexist
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:02 am
by F Keenan
Jesus wrote:Toasted Oates wrote:What's the over/under on Jesus making another comment in this thread?
Someone say my name?
YES!!!!1!!! TEH JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:13 am
by dmiles2186
Jesus wrote:Toasted Oates wrote:What's the over/under on Jesus making another comment in this thread?
Someone say my name?
Now all I can think about is Beyonce....
Thanks Jesus!
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:18 pm
by ViPeRx007
Everybody is going to hell.
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:15 pm
by glen a richter
ViPeRx007 wrote:Everybody is going to hell.
HellDOESN'Texist?
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:53 pm
by cardsfan04
I'll try to find the article, but I read something from fivethirtyeight a little while ago that broke down how many fans a team needs to have to be profitable. Long story short, a team needs 300-400K fans to be profitable.
-Maple Leafs have 5mil fans. If 20% supported an expansion team (dunno if that's realistic or not especially with that fanbase), they'd have more fans than the Blackhawks and could easily support an expansion team.
-Vegas has an estimated 91K NHL fans.
-Seattle has more, but not the requisite 300K.
-Quebec (as well as a number of other Canadian cities) have enough.
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:26 pm
by KrustyKevo
Hockye is hard.
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:25 pm
by ViPeRx007
KrustyKevo wrote:Hockye is hard.
If you ask a moron they'd say it's easy. Then again, they're a moron so...
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:46 pm
by JesusNEVERexisted
ComradeT wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:glen a richter wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:I agree it's not a great idea. They have be careful of over saturation .
Quebec City and Seattle deserve teams but not 2 teams in Toronto or 2 teams in Minnesota.
2 teams in Minnesota? Las Vegas, Minnesota? You suck at geography too.
WRONG! You can't read retard! They have talked about adding another team in the Toronto area and another team in Minnesota so I said no to that!
There's nothing in the article about a second team in Minnesota, dude. So what are you talking about?
The article says the NHL "going back to Minnesota" so I just misread it and thought they meant putting another NHL team in Minnesota. However over the years I have read articles on how Minnesota could support 2 NHL teams if strategically placed. Once I heard Minny native Neal Broten say Minnesota could support 2 NHL teams. I bet Backes would agree.
Re: NHL to expand by 4 teams?
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:02 pm
by STLADOGG
JesusNEVERexisted wrote:ComradeT wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:glen a richter wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:I agree it's not a great idea. They have be careful of over saturation .
Quebec City and Seattle deserve teams but not 2 teams in Toronto or 2 teams in Minnesota.
2 teams in Minnesota? Las Vegas, Minnesota? You suck at geography too.
WRONG! You can't read retard! They have talked about adding another team in the Toronto area and another team in Minnesota so I said no to that!
There's nothing in the article about a second team in Minnesota, dude. So what are you talking about?
The article says the NHL "going back to Minnesota" so I just misread it and thought they meant putting another NHL team in Minnesota. However over the years I have read articles on how Minnesota could support 2 NHL teams if strategically placed. Once I heard Minny native Neal Broten say Minnesota could support 2 NHL teams. I bet Backes would agree.
I bet Jesus wouldn't agree.