Blues Re-Sign Brian Elliott to 3 year deal

[flyingnote38]

Yeah, seems like Ducks are the favorite.

If the Ducks aren't interested in keeping Hiller, why would they sign Miller? They seem set to go with Andersen and Gibson in net. The Sharks could decide that Niemi takes the blame for their playoff flop and make a move for a goalie but Miller didn't exactly make a case for himself being anyone's answer in goal either, plus he will turn 34 before next season.

I guess he could sign to be LAs backup for a huge paycut. Otherwise, the job openings look to be in Vancouver, Washington, ? Calgary

[STLADOGG]

Yeah, seems like Ducks are the favorite.

If the Ducks aren't interested in keeping Hiller, why would they sign Miller? They seem set to go with Andersen and Gibson in net. The Sharks could decide that Niemi takes the blame for their playoff flop and make a move for a goalie but Miller didn't exactly make a case for himself being anyone's answer in goal either, plus he will turn 34 before next season.

I guess he could sign to be LAs backup for a huge paycut. Otherwise, the job openings look to be in Vancouver, Washington, ? Calgary

Gibson is only 20, he could really use a guy like Miller to show him how to be a goalie.(just like Allen could have)
Plus Miller's wife is living in that area.

[JesusNEVERexisted]

I read in the PD article on Elliot that Army said the Blues would have to pay Buffalo money if they kept Miller. Anyone know what he meant by that?

[glen a richter]

So let's just clarify for finality sake... we keep this years 1st rounder now, correct?

[Jackman5]

Doesn't this mean that Miller is gone and Elliot and Allen are the Blues goalies?

Yep. Armstrong confirmed this in his press conference.

Wow, so Armstrong said Miller is gone? I wonder if Miller goes to the Ducks.

It wouldn't be a surprise. His wife is out there.

[WaukeeBlues]

So let's just clarify for finality sake... we keep this years 1st rounder now, correct?

Yes. As long as we don't trade his rights or re-sign him before it's our turn to draft, we keep our pick.

Which makes me wonder; why not just trade his rights AFTER the draft but before July 1?

[flyingnote38]

I read in the PD article on Elliot that Army said the Blues would have to pay Buffalo money if they kept Miller. Anyone know what he meant by that?

I think he was referring to the conditional draft pick.

[flyingnote38]

So let's just clarify for finality sake... we keep this years 1st rounder now, correct?

Yes. As long as we don't trade his rights or re-sign him before it's our turn to draft, we keep our pick.

Which makes me wonder; why not just trade his rights AFTER the draft but before July 1?

There's a condition on that as well. they would get our 2nd rounder next year.

[JesusNEVERexisted]

I read in the PD article on Elliot that Army said the Blues would have to pay Buffalo money if they kept Miller. Anyone know what he meant by that?

I think he was referring to the conditional draft pick.

But he specifically referred to money. Basically if we kept Miller we have to pay Buffalo. Is he talking about deferred money or something?

[flyingnote38]

I read in the PD article on Elliot that Army said the Blues would have to pay Buffalo money if they kept Miller. Anyone know what he meant by that?

I think he was referring to the conditional draft pick.

But he specifically referred to money. Basically if we kept Miller we have to pay Buffalo. Is he talking about deferred money or something?

here's the confusing quote, but he is referring to the pick not money

""But it was additional payments necessary to Buffalo if we signed Ryan. That would have been basically moving back a full round in the draft ... and we just felt at this time, it was better for us to go with Elliott and Jake Allen.""

[JesusNEVERexisted]

Flyingnote, thanks for clearing that up. So he's talking about conditional draft picks?

[flyingnote38]

Flyingnote, thanks for clearing that up. So he's talking about conditional draft picks?

the trade conditions are pretty convoluted......
you can read them and many others here http://www.prosportstransactions.com/ho ... s/2014.htm

but here's the meat (with some of the fat trimmed off)

Buffalo traded Ryan Miller, Steve Ott, conditional draft picks to Blues for Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, 2015 first round pick (?-?), conditional draft pick(s)

Buffalo gets our 2014 first round pick(will be #24 overall) and our 2016 third round pick and Blues get Minnesota's 2014 second round pick (49th overall) and Buffalo's 2014 third round pick(61st overall)
if any of the following conditions are met:
Blues re-sign or trade Ryan Miller prior to making their 2014 first round pick,

If none of those conditions are met then Buffalo gets our 2016 second round pick if any of the following conditions are met:
1) Blues re-sign Ryan Miller to a contract extension after making their 2014 first round pick,
2) Blues trade Ryan Miller after making their 2014 first round pick and prior to 2014-07-01,
3) Blues re-sign Ryan Miller to a new NHL contract for 2014-15.

If none of those conditions are met, then Buffalo gets our 2016 third round pick) (?-?) on 2014-02-28

[JesusNEVERexisted]

LMAO! That's ridiculous! The net result is it's better for the Blues to not resign Miller or trade him right? Just let him walk.

[STLADOGG]

LMAO! That's ridiculous! The net result is it's better for the Blues to not resign Miller or trade him right? Just let him walk.

Exactly, that's what we will do.

[not_a_wings_fan]

The top 3 destinations for Miller are Anaheim, San Jose, and Vancouver. All 3 teams need a goalie and Miller has stated his desire to play in California where his wife is.

lol, sure... Vancouver maybe.

From LeBrun:

•And finally, where will Ryan Miller land? The decision by the St. Louis Blues to not try to re-sign him after a first-round playoff exit was probably a mutual decision anyway. It means Miller is headed to the July 1 unrestricted free agency market for the first time in his career, which was pretty much always the plan. He’s been linked for almost a year to the Anaheim Ducks, perhaps because Miller’s wife, Noureen DeWulf, is an actress, so the fit would certainly work from that perspective. But a source told ESPN.com Wednesday that the Ducks have decided to stick with the kids in net, John Gibson and Frederik Andersen, and do not plan on courting Miller. You can also rule out fellow California club San Jose. The word out of there is that the Sharks are going to continue to focus on their mini-rebuild and it’s about youth for them. Adding veteran players is not in the cards in San Jose.

[WaukeeBlues]

The top 3 destinations for Miller are Anaheim, San Jose, and Vancouver. All 3 teams need a goalie and Miller has stated his desire to play in California where his wife is.

lol, sure... Vancouver maybe.

From LeBrun:

•And finally, where will Ryan Miller land? The decision by the St. Louis Blues to not try to re-sign him after a first-round playoff exit was probably a mutual decision anyway. It means Miller is headed to the July 1 unrestricted free agency market for the first time in his career, which was pretty much always the plan. He’s been linked for almost a year to the Anaheim Ducks, perhaps because Miller’s wife, Noureen DeWulf, is an actress, so the fit would certainly work from that perspective. But a source told ESPN.com Wednesday that the Ducks have decided to stick with the kids in net, John Gibson and Frederik Andersen, and do not plan on courting Miller. You can also rule out fellow California club San Jose. The word out of there is that the Sharks are going to continue to focus on their mini-rebuild and it’s about youth for them. Adding veteran players is not in the cards in San Jose.

We can't ALL be Chris Pronger or Mike Fisher...

[flyingnote38]

Isles signed Halak 4 years $18 mill

[Oaklandblue]

The top 3 destinations for Miller are Anaheim, San Jose, and Vancouver. All 3 teams need a goalie and Miller has stated his desire to play in California where his wife is.

lol, sure... Vancouver maybe.

From LeBrun:

•And finally, where will Ryan Miller land? The decision by the St. Louis Blues to not try to re-sign him after a first-round playoff exit was probably a mutual decision anyway. It means Miller is headed to the July 1 unrestricted free agency market for the first time in his career, which was pretty much always the plan. He’s been linked for almost a year to the Anaheim Ducks, perhaps because Miller’s wife, Noureen DeWulf, is an actress, so the fit would certainly work from that perspective. But a source told ESPN.com Wednesday that the Ducks have decided to stick with the kids in net, John Gibson and Frederik Andersen, and do not plan on courting Miller. You can also rule out fellow California club San Jose. The word out of there is that the Sharks are going to continue to focus on their mini-rebuild and it’s about youth for them. Adding veteran players is not in the cards in San Jose.

Miller blew it bigtime. He could have named his own price and gotten it had he played lights out for us. He has no one to blame but himself and I'm honestly happy to see it. He'll end up a backup and he won't get as much as he was getting before, IF he's lucky.

[gaijin]

The top 3 destinations for Miller are Anaheim, San Jose, and Vancouver. All 3 teams need a goalie and Miller has stated his desire to play in California where his wife is.

lol, sure... Vancouver maybe.

From LeBrun:

•And finally, where will Ryan Miller land? The decision by the St. Louis Blues to not try to re-sign him after a first-round playoff exit was probably a mutual decision anyway. It means Miller is headed to the July 1 unrestricted free agency market for the first time in his career, which was pretty much always the plan. He’s been linked for almost a year to the Anaheim Ducks, perhaps because Miller’s wife, Noureen DeWulf, is an actress, so the fit would certainly work from that perspective. But a source told ESPN.com Wednesday that the Ducks have decided to stick with the kids in net, John Gibson and Frederik Andersen, and do not plan on courting Miller. You can also rule out fellow California club San Jose. The word out of there is that the Sharks are going to continue to focus on their mini-rebuild and it’s about youth for them. Adding veteran players is not in the cards in San Jose.

Miller blew it bigtime. He could have named his own price and gotten it had he played lights out for us. He has no one to blame but himself and I'm honestly happy to see it. He'll end up a backup and he won't get as much as he was getting before, IF he's lucky.

Yes, but tell us how you REALLY feel.

[JesusNEVERexisted]

I estimate Miller has ALREADY made around $50 million in his career so he won't be applying for food stamps. He could retire tomorrow and he's set for life.

NHLers should bow at the feet of Gretzky for all their riches. It's only after Gretzky was traded to LA then salaries went insane! Remember the average NHL salary was only around $200K before Gretzky came stateside!