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Its like the Seahawks. Basically commit pass interference every single play and assume the refs aren't going to call it most of the time.ComradeT wrote:Yep, I'm a homer. But after seeing Keith's extensive stickwork on the Blues, I've been paying a bit more attention and Hawks constantly use their sticks and the refs totally let them walk way beyond the line. Today's non-call on Toews' tripping Suter before Bickell's goal was awful and basically gave Chicago the game. I understand letting the guys play but shit like that has to be called.
I don't think there is a fix in or anything. And the Blues had a shitton of powerplays. No complaints about it in regards to getting powerplays or its impact on a series.Kerfuffle wrote:That sounds like sour grapes guys. Every game, and I mean every game has penalties that are not called against BOTH teams. I can find several that occurred today that should have been called against the Wild but weren't. I see you failed to mention that in your post. I find it annoying when people try to drumbeat the conspiracy theories about the fix being in because penalties weren't called against the team they dislike. The Vancouver site is the worst with this. Detroit tried to play that game as well when we came back and beat them 3-games-to-1. Let's not make the Blues board part of this.
I try not to complain about reffing too often. I always hate to hear, 'The Blues always get screwed!' Main reason is that the overall reffing in the NHL sucks. Period. Everyone gets screwed. We just don't see other teams getting screwed because we're too busy complaining about our team getting screwed.Kerfuffle wrote:That sounds like sour grapes guys. Every game, and I mean every game has penalties that are not called against BOTH teams. I can find several that occurred today that should have been called against the Wild but weren't. I see you failed to mention that in your post. I find it annoying when people try to drumbeat the conspiracy theories about the fix being in because penalties weren't called against the team they dislike. The Vancouver site is the worst with this. Detroit tried to play that game as well when we came back and beat them 3-games-to-1. Let's not make the Blues board part of this.
Over the course of an entire season, each team probably gets screwed an equal amount. It becomes magnified in the playoffs when we're hoping beyond all hope for our team to get calls in their favor and then something gets missed. I do recall Ott getting away with a slash on someone right ahead of us getting a PP in game 1 or 2. I also remember us getting about 1000000 power plays and scoring on what, 2 of them? I remember a regular season game getting a second chance after an Islanders OT goal that was totally legit was called back for some phantom reasoning. Everyone gets screwed by bad calls. We only notice the ones we care about, and we only care about the ones that go against the Blues. I'd imagine most teams fans are like that.dmiles2186 wrote:I try not to complain about reffing too often. I always hate to hear, 'The Blues always get screwed!' Main reason is that the overall reffing in the NHL sucks. Period. Everyone gets screwed. We just don't see other teams getting screwed because we're too busy complaining about our team getting screwed.Kerfuffle wrote:That sounds like sour grapes guys. Every game, and I mean every game has penalties that are not called against BOTH teams. I can find several that occurred today that should have been called against the Wild but weren't. I see you failed to mention that in your post. I find it annoying when people try to drumbeat the conspiracy theories about the fix being in because penalties weren't called against the team they dislike. The Vancouver site is the worst with this. Detroit tried to play that game as well when we came back and beat them 3-games-to-1. Let's not make the Blues board part of this.
(This is in no way an insult to anyone in this thread. I'm just saying in general, I've heard too many Blues fans say this type of stuff)
Yeah, and something else that hasn't been mentioned yet is that penalties seem to even out somewhat. It seems like if a team has been called a bunch, the other team starts to get more calls. I know the NHL and its referees would vehemently deny this, but it could be as simple as the Hawks had already been penalized a bunch, so they were hesitant to call more. It just seems like as more penalties are called it becomes less likely that the highly penalized team gets called and more likely that the unpenalized team gets called. I have absolutely nothing to back that up other than perception. It may be wrong, but it's what it seems like happens a lot of the time to me.cprice12 wrote:Star players get away with more crap. The Hawks have a number of star players on their roster.
It's not rocket science.
But the Blues lost the series with the Hawks because they couldn't convert on their PP. Had they been just average on the PP, we'd be playing the Wild right now.
I agree with you and I think it's just human nature to try and even things out subconsciously. We've all seen the proverbial 'make-up call' at times.cardsfan04 wrote: Yeah, and something else that hasn't been mentioned yet is that penalties seem to even out somewhat. It seems like if a team has been called a bunch, the other team starts to get more calls. I know the NHL and its referees would vehemently deny this, but it could be as simple as the Hawks had already been penalized a bunch, so they were hesitant to call more. It just seems like as more penalties are called it becomes less likely that the highly penalized team gets called and more likely that the unpenalized team gets called. I have absolutely nothing to back that up other than perception. It may be wrong, but it's what it seems like happens a lot of the time to me.
STLADOGG wrote:The Blues had a crap load of PP's no matter what.
Unfortunately, THIS.