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Re: Alex Pietrangelo talks break off for St. Louis Blues

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:58 pm
by Oaklandblue
kodos wrote:Well, the last few elite defenseman that got contracts on the open market went for $98 million over 13 years and $110 million over 14 years.

Heck, our old pal Dennis Wideman signed for 5 years at 5.25 million per. Are we saying that Peitrangelo isn't 20% better than Dennis Wideman?
Vancouver paid Luongo how much for how long and look at the fallout. I'm trying hard to remember a player who was paid a ridiculous sum for a ridiculous length of time who turned out to be worth it and brought home a Cup for their team. So far, as the saying goes, I got nothing.

I have heard of 4-7m players who have done such things. So I can see Pie make as much even though on paper he doesn't look worth it in that range. From those 'in-the-know' what exactly makes him worth that much money now? We could say 'he'll do better down the stretch or when he turns the corner', but that's like Chicago saying 'Yeah, this Hasek guy is going to dominate, let's keep him.

They of course didn't, because all of this talk is about hindsight. Pie might have a career-ending injury. He might catch fire. He might become mediocre. He might become really good. Too many ifs, when we shouldn't consider ifs and consider what's he has done to this point and pay him based on that. A bridge contract would be ideal. We proved we will pay top dollar if you produce. Stewart did and he produced. Oshie did and he produced. Pie knows the game. If he's smart he'll sign and play up. If he's dumb he won't and what I didn't consider was Army saying 'Alright son, you're an RFA so you're just not going to play this year.'. No money. No Team Canada and a blank year of no stats to add into a medicore year and some hand-shaking okay one and a good one.

That's something even Pie's agent should tell him he can't afford.

Re: Alex Pietrangelo talks break off for St. Louis Blues

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:51 pm
by goon attack
screw this pansy. trade him now. he's useless anyway.

Re: Alex Pietrangelo talks break off for St. Louis Blues

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:56 am
by gaijin
Meh, I'm not fussed, really. If we sign him, he'll drop off. If he walks, he'll win a Cup with his next team. It's the Blues.

Re: Alex Pietrangelo talks break off for St. Louis Blues

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:32 pm
by sseagle
7 years at 6.5 not bad. Just a bit high

Re: Alex Pietrangelo talks break off for St. Louis Blues

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:55 pm
by kodos
Looks like they broke back on.

Re: Alex Pietrangelo talks break off for St. Louis Blues

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:39 pm
by sseagle
kodos wrote:Looks like they broke back on.
They are totally off now!
:banana:

Re: Alex Pietrangelo talks break off for St. Louis Blues

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:12 pm
by cprice12
kodos wrote:Well, the last few elite defenseman that got contracts on the open market went for $98 million over 13 years and $110 million over 14 years.

Heck, our old pal Dennis Wideman signed for 5 years at 5.25 million per. Are we saying that Peitrangelo isn't 20% better than Dennis Wideman?
I want to say he is. But he's only had two full seasons in the NHL. So, really, we don't know what kind of player he is going to be. He's had a good season, a great season and a sub-par half season.

I guess I was just hard on him last year because of what was expected of him. He really fell short of expectations last year and I constantly found myself very frustrated at his play and the types of mistakes he was making pretty much every game. Hopefully that changes this year.