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Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:03 pm
by The Bob Essensa Xperience
DaDitka wrote: What difference does it make? It's not like Jackman is playing D either.
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Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:03 pm
by northwest dave
DaDitka wrote:
northwest dave wrote:
DaDitka wrote:
northwest dave wrote:
DaDitka wrote:
northwest dave wrote:If your name is Brad or Eric...lookout, the Blues will trade you. :lol:

Quick, change his name to Brad-Eric Jackman :okman:

Wondering if Vancouver has sights on Jax. However, Blues need something in return (not a draft), the defense is very thin already. Maybe there is a 3-way deal somehow.

Petro - Cola - Polak - Nitikin - Shatty - and then Strachan or Cole....Yikes.

Vancouver would have to send someone back (or they would have to send someone down) because they are against the cap.
But the Blues would need a dman coming back. Vancouver wouldn't do that.
What difference does it make? It's not like Jackman is playing D either.
Great conversationalist, you are.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:05 pm
by TheoSqua
Jackman has a full no trade clause and made it known yesterday that he would not waive it. At least according to Darren Pang via some guy on Blues Talk.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:07 pm
by DaDitka
northwest dave wrote: Great conversationalist, you are.

Sorry I don't share your high regard for Jackman, but considering how bad he's been the step down can't be that far to Cole or anyone else.

It's not that f*&%ing hard to stand there and watch your opponent put the puck in the back of your net.

The only thing Cole would have to work on is punching guys AFTER the official gets between them.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:14 pm
by northwest dave
DaDitka wrote:
northwest dave wrote: Great conversationalist, you are.

Sorry I don't share your high regard for Jackman, but considering how bad he's been the step down can't be that far to Cole or anyone else.

It's not that f*&%ing hard to stand there and watch your opponent put the puck in the back of your net.

The only thing Cole would have to work on is punching guys AFTER the official gets between them.
There you go, that wasn't too hard. It's very well-known you hate Jackman, so a flippant comment doesn't really add to the discussion. Now if you could have said, "I'm ok with it because Cole can take his spot and learn."

I question whether Cole is ready and if his development could get hurt. In the meantime, we can look forward to Strachan misreading plays and giving pucks away while Cola gets run over and lays on the ice.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:17 pm
by northwest dave
TheoSqua wrote:Jackman has a full no trade clause and made it known yesterday that he would not waive it. At least according to Darren Pang via some guy on Blues Talk.
Yeah, figured he might waive it for Vancouver since he is from the area, but it would take a roster player coming back to the blues.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:09 pm
by thedoc
I no longer sponsor anyone :facepalm:

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:19 pm
by gaijin
thedoc wrote:I no longer sponsor anyone :facepalm:
You can still sponsor the Winchester rifle. They're pretty badass. Not to mention valuable.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:53 pm
by kodos
You get whoever we draft with the pick.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:06 pm
by The Bob Essensa Xperience
thedoc wrote:I no longer sponsor anyone :facepalm:
I suggest you now sponsor True Dat Boguniecki.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:32 pm
by JPonder94
It's a win for the Blues because I didn't think anyone would take a bite at Winchester.

I look at it this way: If Winchester was 18 years old this summer, where would he be taken in the draft?

The answer is later than the 3rd round. :letsgoblues:

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:40 pm
by philco_3
Good move, surprised the Blues were even able to get that high of a draft pick for him.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:52 pm
by xbleed83bluex
Army is really cleaning up this team. This season's roster was basically the same exact roster last season, but next year we are going to look different.

I still don't like the Boyes trade. He adds scoring depth to the team, but oh well.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:09 pm
by tjk002
ProngerBlues44 wrote:It's a win for the Blues because I didn't think anyone would take a bite at Winchester.

I look at it this way: If Winchester was 18 years old this summer, where would he be taken in the draft?

The answer is later than the 3rd round. :letsgoblues:
Considering he was a first rounder last time they judged him at that age, I'd say he'd be a first rounder. He was an inexpensive player that had size and some scoring touch. He won't be easy to replace at that cost.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:22 pm
by cardsfan04
tjk002 wrote:
ProngerBlues44 wrote:It's a win for the Blues because I didn't think anyone would take a bite at Winchester.

I look at it this way: If Winchester was 18 years old this summer, where would he be taken in the draft?

The answer is later than the 3rd round. :letsgoblues:
Considering he was a first rounder last time they judged him at that age, I'd say he'd be a first rounder. He was an inexpensive player that had size and some scoring touch. He won't be easy to replace at that cost.
What he means is if you know this is the player he will turn into, would you draft him in the first round?

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:25 pm
by blues fan
My feeling is they just made room to make the offseason contracts they need to do with RFA's. I think they are taking a lesson from the Blackhawks, sign up your core group of guys and then fill in from there. Will be smart depending on money and length of contracts given. they have 5-6 guys to get signed before the season or look at trading some next year at this time. Oshie,Berglund, Dags, Bishop and sobotka all need to be signed if they intend to keep them for a few years. They have next season to see how Perron responds after his concussion.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:56 pm
by joosforjihad
Considering Fredrik Modin (5 years older though) went for a 7th rounder I'd say we got a pretty good return for him.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:42 pm
by JPonder94
cardsfan04 wrote:
tjk002 wrote:
ProngerBlues44 wrote:It's a win for the Blues because I didn't think anyone would take a bite at Winchester.

I look at it this way: If Winchester was 18 years old this summer, where would he be taken in the draft?

The answer is later than the 3rd round. :letsgoblues:
Considering he was a first rounder last time they judged him at that age, I'd say he'd be a first rounder. He was an inexpensive player that had size and some scoring touch. He won't be easy to replace at that cost.
What he means is if you know this is the player he will turn into, would you draft him in the first round?
I'm glad somebody understands me. :grin:

I have a recap of the day up on the front page if anyone is interested.

EDIT: In case you read this earlier, there was a problem posting it. That problem is now fixed.

Re: Winchester to Ducks

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:50 pm
by goblues55555
Winchester was drafted in the 2nd round (35th overall). Either way good move for the blues, i was thinking they would be hard pressed to get anything better than a 6th round pick for Brad.