5 years of the shootout - verdict?

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Do you like the shootout in the NHL?

Yes, keep it.
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45%
No, get rid of it.
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I don't care.
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I would cut down the preseason to 2 or 3 games in order to get 10 minute OT. Preseason is a waste. Players show up to camp in much better shape nowadays, and the teams can use the camp to sort out the rosters. All you need is a few games to get warmed up (and use these for the overseas exhibition games), then get the regular season started!
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The vets don't play much in preseason. 10 minute ot's when one of the teams may have to jump on a plane and fly half way across the country and play the next day ain't happening.
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Leedog wrote:The vets don't play much in preseason. 10 minute ot's when one of the teams may have to jump on a plane and fly half way across the country and play the next day ain't happening.
But it's only 5 more minutes! :-)

I like the shootout, but it should be expanded to 5 per side rather than the dumb 3... 5 seems more exciting per Mighty Ducks 2
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TSUCookieMonster wrote:
Leedog wrote:The vets don't play much in preseason. 10 minute ot's when one of the teams may have to jump on a plane and fly half way across the country and play the next day ain't happening.
But it's only 5 more minutes! :-)

I like the shootout, but it should be expanded to 5 per side rather than the dumb 3... 5 seems more exciting per Mighty Ducks 2

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section319 wrote:
TSUCookieMonster wrote:
Leedog wrote:The vets don't play much in preseason. 10 minute ot's when one of the teams may have to jump on a plane and fly half way across the country and play the next day ain't happening.
But it's only 5 more minutes! :-)

I like the shootout, but it should be expanded to 5 per side rather than the dumb 3... 5 seems more exciting per Mighty Ducks 2

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What we need to do, is have a series of threads, one for, then one against, then one for, then one against, then one for, then one against, at least, until a winner is determined.
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stlbluz wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:1. Three point system ASAP
2. 5 shooters, not 3
3. 10-minute 4-on-4 OT before the shootout
4. Abolish the instigator
5. Profit.
This!
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Pierre LeBrun has an article out today about the league's lukecold reception to the three-point system. Steve Yzerman is all for it, and of course the Satanic Wings GM Ken Holland says no (along with most of the rest of the league). But guess who would be leading the West under the 3 point system?

(That's right, the Blues.)

And as I type this, LeBrun's article has disappeared. I'll link to it when it's up again.
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I love the shootouts! Even if our Blues suck at them this season...but we're getting better! That being said, I love the continuous OT's in the playoffs!
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Agree with 10 minute OT, 5 shooters. One change... Shootout wins should not count the same as ROWs for streaks. The wings 20+ win streak at home is a joke compared to the last two teams who accomplished the feat without the benefit of a guaranteed win for one team every night. See Boston and Philly in the 70s.
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NO

You didn't find a winner in 60.

You still couldn't get one in 5 of 4 on 4.

you BOTH LOSE, so 1 point each since we have to give out two points, this three point shitting is ridiculous and always seems to burn us.

If we go to soccer rules (3 win, 1 draw, 0 loss) it would work better.

:facepalm: SHITOUT/OFFS are SO STUPID, they never have a Field goal kicking contest to decide football, they dont have a home run derby to decide baseball, shootout is a 'fun' thing for an all star game, not for real-points-matter hockey.
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sseagle wrote:NO

You didn't find a winner in 60.

You still couldn't get one in 5 of 4 on 4.

you BOTH LOSE, so 1 point each since we have to give out two points, this three point shitting is ridiculous and always seems to burn us.

If we go to soccer rules (3 win, 1 draw, 0 loss) it would work better.

:facepalm: SHITOUT/OFFS are SO STUPID, they never have a Field goal kicking contest to decide football, they dont have a home run derby to decide baseball, shootout is a 'fun' thing for an all star game, not for real-points-matter hockey.
Plus it(the shootout) takes some of the excitement away from the Penalty shot.
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ohio BLUES wrote:
stlbluz wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:1. Three point system ASAP
2. 5 shooters, not 3
3. 10-minute 4-on-4 OT before the shootout
4. Abolish the instigator
5. Profit.
This!
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Pierre LeBrun has an article out today about the league's lukecold reception to the three-point system. Steve Yzerman is all for it, and of course the Satanic Wings GM Ken Holland says no (along with most of the rest of the league). But guess who would be leading the West under the 3 point system?

(That's right, the Blues.)

And as I type this, LeBrun's article has disappeared. I'll link to it when it's up again.
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Just go back to the way it was, goddammit why did they have to go and (Frank) with it by adding a (Franking) skills competition that reduces 65 minutes of team effort down to an individual exhibition? If you tie, you tie. (Franking) deal with that shit and move on.
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ohio BLUES wrote:
stlbluz wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:1. Three point system ASAP
2. 5 shooters, not 3
3. 10-minute 4-on-4 OT before the shootout
4. Abolish the instigator
5. Profit.
This!
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Pierre LeBrun has an article out today about the league's lukecold reception to the three-point system. Steve Yzerman is all for it, and of course the Satanic Wings GM Ken Holland says no (along with most of the rest of the league). But guess who would be leading the West under the 3 point system?

(That's right, the Blues.)

And as I type this, LeBrun's article has disappeared. I'll link to it when it's up again.
As much as I enjoy watching a hockey game, adding even 5 extra minutes to OT, then having a shootout is really stretching it. Just keep it simple the way it is. I didn't mind a Tie but Shootouts forced a winner and gave a team the extra point - what is really the purpose of adding 5 mins to OT??
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Mahoney wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:
stlbluz wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:1. Three point system ASAP
2. 5 shooters, not 3
3. 10-minute 4-on-4 OT before the shootout
4. Abolish the instigator
5. Profit.
This!
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Pierre LeBrun has an article out today about the league's lukecold reception to the three-point system. Steve Yzerman is all for it, and of course the Satanic Wings GM Ken Holland says no (along with most of the rest of the league). But guess who would be leading the West under the 3 point system?

(That's right, the Blues.)

And as I type this, LeBrun's article has disappeared. I'll link to it when it's up again.
As much as I enjoy watching a hockey game, adding even 5 extra minutes to OT, then having a shootout is really stretching it. Just keep it simple the way it is. I didn't mind a Tie but Shootouts forced a winner and gave a team the extra point - what is really the purpose of adding 5 mins to OT??
If they want to promote a higher paced game to encourage people to keep going to games and they insist on screwing with tradition, then I propose this for the OT:

5 minutes 3 on 3, all rules pertaining to two line passes, offsides and icing are suspended, fire at will. Most goals in 5 minutes wins, in the case of a tie, tie breaker becomes most shots, in case of it still being a tie, 2nd tie breaker is (Frank) it and call it a damn tie. If this sounds ridiculous but you still think that having it be an exhibition of individual skills in a 1 on 1 all-star style competition is the greatest thing ever then I don't even know what to tell you.

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10 minute sudden death OT...4 on 4. The 5-minute OT is too short. You'd see far less shootouts if it it was a 10 minute OT. Loser in sudden death OT gets nothing...no points. Winner gets 2 pts.

Then a shootout. Loser gets nothing. Winner gets 2 pts.

I hated, hated, hated ties back in the day. It was like I spent 3 hours watching or spent $100 on tickets and nothing was decided. Don't want to go back to that.

The problem isn't the shootouts, the problem is giving points to teams who lose.
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I say we have a 6 minute shootout. After that if no winner is determined then we go to sack races on consecutive Sunday's until a clear winner is determined.

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thedoc wrote:I say we have a 6 minute shootout. After that if no winner is determined then we go to sack races on consecutive Sunday's until a clear winner is determined.

PS MD3 sucked, No Coach Bombay.
and yes I know he had a cameo at the end but Dmiles and Viper know what I mean.
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thedoc wrote:I say we have a 6 minute shootout. After that if no winner is determined then we go to sack races on consecutive Sunday's until a clear winner is determined.

PS MD3 sucked, No Coach Bombay.
Very good point, MD3 did suck...except when Paul Kariya was on there. Besides the 10 seconds that he was on there...the movie sucked. Wait what are we talking about again?
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