GDT: 2010 NHL Draft
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hearing that made me happy.hullisgod wrote:Apparently this guy has a Ovechkin "Russian" mindset in that he really wants to win a cup. Supposed to be built like a tank as well.northwest dave wrote:They like him on TSN. Always unsure about Russians.
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Think someone will take Brewer and/or Jackman?glen a richter wrote:Keep on dealing, Army, we'll get Bjugstad and Etem yet!
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Phoenix at 22.hullisgod wrote:Think someone will take Brewer and/or Jackman?glen a richter wrote:Keep on dealing, Army, we'll get Bjugstad and Etem yet!
Jackman and a later pick for the 22nd, draft whichever Bjugstad or Etem is still available.
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Represented by Mike Liut...so that can't be bad.
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Re: GDT: 2010 NHL Draft
Tarasenko at 15th is a steal imho. Here you have his profile at russianprospect.com
http://www.russianprospect.com/vladimir-tarasenko
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Nice move to get Tarasenko, he's ranked #4 overall in the draft by the ISS.
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Tarasenko had just as good of numbers in the KHL during this draft year as Ovechkin had in his, but Tarasenko did it in 10 less games.
Ovechkin:
2003-04 Moscow Dynamo Russia 53gp 13g 10a 23p
Tarasenko:
2009-10 Novosibirsk Siber KHL 42gp 13g 11a 24p
..Just saying...
Ovechkin:
2003-04 Moscow Dynamo Russia 53gp 13g 10a 23p
Tarasenko:
2009-10 Novosibirsk Siber KHL 42gp 13g 11a 24p
..Just saying...
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So this doesn't sound too bad...
Source: http://www.thescoutingreport.org/7-vlad ... ng-report/
Source: http://www.thescoutingreport.org/7-vlad ... ng-report/
The Scouting Report wrote: Date of Birth: December 13th, 1991
Height: 6.00
Weight: 175lbs.
Shoots: L
Season Statistics: Regular Season | 42GP 13G 11A 24P 18PIM - Playoffs | n/a
TSR Midterm Rank: 7 | Position Rank: 4th Forwards | League Rank: 1st KHL | Country Rank: 1st Russia
One player who could very well be on par with Taylor Hall and Tyler Seguin is Russian winger Vladimir Tarasenko who has quietly built his acumen with a stellar season in the KHL this past year. In a draft crop laced with some of the most promising Russian prospects in recent memory, Tarasenko headlines the crop of talented young players and could prove to be one of the top players in the draft.
Tarasenko has decent size, but is one of the most potent offensive players in the draft. He’s a good skater, with excellent acceleration and has the ability to reach top flight extremely quickly. His hands are excellent, making him very good in one on one situations, and his shot power and accuracy are comparable to the best players in the draft. Adding to the positives, he also competes hard, especially for a Russian, and is willing to battle for the puck to win battles.
This combination of skills allowed Tarasenko to be a very effective forward in the KHL this year despite only being 17 years old for the first portion of the season. He saw a lot of quality time playing for Sibir, and managed to improve considerably on his numbers from a year ago. Tarasenko increased his goal totals from 7 to 13, his assists from 3 to 11, and his points from 10 to 24. Having the opportunity to log significant minutes in the second best league in the world was a huge asset for his development as the opportunity to play against other professionals every game allowed him to gain experience of playing the game in a similar environment to the NHL.
While the KHL is definitely a platform to gain some strong experience for a young player, it also inevitably works against them as well as it increases concerns about a player’s signability. This will no doubt be the case with Tarasenko, who could have potentially contended for a Top 5 pick, but might be resigned to sliding into the late portion of the Top 10, or even into the teens. Tarasenko will play in the KHL next year, barring an unforeseen circumstance, but there is documentation that he does intend to cross the pond at some point in the future to bring his game to the NHL when the time comes. Even still, you can bet that teams will be concerned about the risk associated with him, and it will certainly deter most of the lottery teams from making a play for him.
His story will be one of the interesting ones to follow on draft day, as he could slide like the late Alexander Cherepanov, or be a Top 10 pick as his talent would indicate. While Tarasenko does still have some work to do on his complete game, he’s shown a lot of maturation and his offensive skills and impressive play on the international stage cannot be overlooked. As I mentioned before, it wouldn’t be a surprise to say the least to see him as one of the premier players from this crop when things are all said and done.
Pros: Shooting, Acceleration, Deking
Cons: Complete Game, The Russian Factor
Skillset comparison: Alexander Radulov
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Oh I didnt know you were a professional NHL scout these days, its been a while since I've been around. So you know that Etem or Bjugstad are the players we needed to get? I bet it was tough to come to that conclusion reading lists of players rated by someone who talked to someone else who rated players.glen a richter wrote:There better be some kind of trade in the works to get somewhere in the next two picks and draft Etem or Bjugstad, or I'll be at the airport ready to send off Jarmo and be rid of his sorry ass. What the hell was that all about? Jaden Schwartz? May the Schwartz be with us? What the frick???
When Campbell, Fowler, and Gormley went the three picks before the Blues it ended my opinion on the draft. I have absolutely no idea how any of these players did, but the last time the Blues went off the board to draft a lesser known American hockey player in the first round it worked out. And if they can get this Russian guy over here, then they just did a helluva job in my opinion. And my opinion means dog shit because I watch hockey from my couch.
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Bad day Ted? Want to talk about it?richtedm wrote:Oh I didnt know you were a professional NHL scout these days, its been a while since I've been around. So you know that Etem or Bjugstad are the players we needed to get? I bet it was tough to come to that conclusion reading lists of players rated by someone who talked to someone else who rated players.glen a richter wrote:There better be some kind of trade in the works to get somewhere in the next two picks and draft Etem or Bjugstad, or I'll be at the airport ready to send off Jarmo and be rid of his sorry ass. What the hell was that all about? Jaden Schwartz? May the Schwartz be with us? What the frick???
When Campbell, Fowler, and Gormley went the three picks before the Blues it ended my opinion on the draft. I have absolutely no idea how any of these players did, but the last time the Blues went off the board to draft a lesser known American hockey player in the first round it worked out. And if they can get this Russian guy over here, then they just did a helluva job in my opinion. And my opinion means dog shit because I watch hockey from my couch.
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I just stopped by flashchat but the only person around was Dooger. We worked it out.ViPeRx007 wrote:Bad day Ted? Want to talk about it?richtedm wrote:Oh I didnt know you were a professional NHL scout these days, its been a while since I've been around. So you know that Etem or Bjugstad are the players we needed to get? I bet it was tough to come to that conclusion reading lists of players rated by someone who talked to someone else who rated players.glen a richter wrote:There better be some kind of trade in the works to get somewhere in the next two picks and draft Etem or Bjugstad, or I'll be at the airport ready to send off Jarmo and be rid of his sorry ass. What the hell was that all about? Jaden Schwartz? May the Schwartz be with us? What the frick???
When Campbell, Fowler, and Gormley went the three picks before the Blues it ended my opinion on the draft. I have absolutely no idea how any of these players did, but the last time the Blues went off the board to draft a lesser known American hockey player in the first round it worked out. And if they can get this Russian guy over here, then they just did a helluva job in my opinion. And my opinion means dog shit because I watch hockey from my couch.
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hmmm, this scouting report makes him seem not half bad. And after watching that youtube video I'm pretty excited to see this kid play.ViPeRx007 wrote:So this doesn't sound too bad...
Source: http://www.thescoutingreport.org/7-vlad ... ng-report/The Scouting Report wrote: Date of Birth: December 13th, 1991
Height: 6.00
Weight: 175lbs.
Shoots: L
Season Statistics: Regular Season | 42GP 13G 11A 24P 18PIM - Playoffs | n/a
TSR Midterm Rank: 7 | Position Rank: 4th Forwards | League Rank: 1st KHL | Country Rank: 1st Russia
One player who could very well be on par with Taylor Hall and Tyler Seguin is Russian winger Vladimir Tarasenko who has quietly built his acumen with a stellar season in the KHL this past year. In a draft crop laced with some of the most promising Russian prospects in recent memory, Tarasenko headlines the crop of talented young players and could prove to be one of the top players in the draft.
Tarasenko has decent size, but is one of the most potent offensive players in the draft. He’s a good skater, with excellent acceleration and has the ability to reach top flight extremely quickly. His hands are excellent, making him very good in one on one situations, and his shot power and accuracy are comparable to the best players in the draft. Adding to the positives, he also competes hard, especially for a Russian, and is willing to battle for the puck to win battles.
This combination of skills allowed Tarasenko to be a very effective forward in the KHL this year despite only being 17 years old for the first portion of the season. He saw a lot of quality time playing for Sibir, and managed to improve considerably on his numbers from a year ago. Tarasenko increased his goal totals from 7 to 13, his assists from 3 to 11, and his points from 10 to 24. Having the opportunity to log significant minutes in the second best league in the world was a huge asset for his development as the opportunity to play against other professionals every game allowed him to gain experience of playing the game in a similar environment to the NHL.
While the KHL is definitely a platform to gain some strong experience for a young player, it also inevitably works against them as well as it increases concerns about a player’s signability. This will no doubt be the case with Tarasenko, who could have potentially contended for a Top 5 pick, but might be resigned to sliding into the late portion of the Top 10, or even into the teens. Tarasenko will play in the KHL next year, barring an unforeseen circumstance, but there is documentation that he does intend to cross the pond at some point in the future to bring his game to the NHL when the time comes. Even still, you can bet that teams will be concerned about the risk associated with him, and it will certainly deter most of the lottery teams from making a play for him.
His story will be one of the interesting ones to follow on draft day, as he could slide like the late Alexander Cherepanov, or be a Top 10 pick as his talent would indicate. While Tarasenko does still have some work to do on his complete game, he’s shown a lot of maturation and his offensive skills and impressive play on the international stage cannot be overlooked. As I mentioned before, it wouldn’t be a surprise to say the least to see him as one of the premier players from this crop when things are all said and done.
Pros: Shooting, Acceleration, Deking
Cons: Complete Game, The Russian Factor
Skillset comparison: Alexander Radulov
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Awesome...now we wait a couple years and see who pans out.
I'm intrigued by the Tarasenko pick. Sounds like we could have a sleeper there.
I'm intrigued by the Tarasenko pick. Sounds like we could have a sleeper there.
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question is, when does the Russian make the big leagues?
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Lighten up, Darnell. I think most of us are scratching our heads trying to figure out who in the hell Jaden Schwartz is. Others are probably just scratching their asses.
The trade to draft Tarasenko made everything alright though. Kid will be a 100 point per season player.
The trade to draft Tarasenko made everything alright though. Kid will be a 100 point per season player.
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Berglund could be the next Blues star, or he could be the next Vitali Prokhorov. Equally likely IMHO.
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