IMO if the Blues had won both those games, they wouldn't have felt a sense of urgency to make these trades. Stewart provides something this team sorely needed and Shattenkirk isn't a slouch. Just because EJ was 1st overall doesn't mean he was playing like it. The likelihood of the playoffs is greater today than it was yesterday.DaDitka wrote:glen a richter wrote:Games in hand mean nothing?DaDitka wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves there.glen a richter wrote: back into contention.
You're still 7 points back, with four teams between you an 8 (5 if your count the #8 team), you still hove no crease clearing defenseman, and Halak will probably be back between the pipes soon.
So making the playoffs is 'possible' this year, but in the same way winning the cup this year is 'possible'. Or Jackman winning the Norris is 'possible'. Or Cam haveing any value is 'possible', or Pang never saying "Holy Jumpin" again is 'possible'.
I think you get the point
If you won both games in hand, you'd probably still need 30 (or more) points in your last 26 games and your have so many games against the teams you are chasing that 3 point games will kill you.
I would put our odds at about 5% now. If we were to win two games in had, I'd put us closer to 15 - 20 % chance which is right about where 'Sports Club Stats' has us right now (14.9%).
IMO the home and home against the Wild last weekend was a killer.
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glen a richter wrote: The likelihood of the playoffs is greater today than it was yesterday.
That, I agree with
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If this were to happen somehow (Boyes + ??? for Parise), I would have perma-wood for a week. Just tossing that out there. Carry on.ohio BLUES wrote:Welcome, dude. I also have the feeling that we're not done, and that we're positioning to trade up for a big fish. Parise may be out of reach, but man would it be sweet.hughbisme1 wrote:Boyes has to go, hopefully NJ will bite and we can land Parise(fingers crossed), its a win win for us!!
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Boyes + Brock Beukeboom for Parisefargoblues wrote:If this were to happen somehow (Boyes + ??? for Parise), I would have perma-wood for a week. Just tossing that out there. Carry on.ohio BLUES wrote:Welcome, dude. I also have the feeling that we're not done, and that we're positioning to trade up for a big fish. Parise may be out of reach, but man would it be sweet.hughbisme1 wrote:Boyes has to go, hopefully NJ will bite and we can land Parise(fingers crossed), its a win win for us!!
The reason this is possible is because the Devils are still in salary cap hell, BUT they finally learned how to win without Parise and that makes him expendable.
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glen a richter wrote:Boyes + Brock Beukeboom for Parise's game used jersey and autographed stickfargoblues wrote:If this were to happen somehow (Boyes + ??? for Parise), I would have perma-wood for a week. Just tossing that out there. Carry on.ohio BLUES wrote:Welcome, dude. I also have the feeling that we're not done, and that we're positioning to trade up for a big fish. Parise may be out of reach, but man would it be sweet.hughbisme1 wrote:Boyes has to go, hopefully NJ will bite and we can land Parise(fingers crossed), its a win win for us!!
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I don't care what salary cap issues the Devils have, I just do not see them trading Parise... EVER. I feel like the reason that they brought in Kovalchuk is because that is their new Brodeur when he retires: Kovalchuk and Parise popping in goals for the next ten years. I think they will get rid of any other players before letting Parise go.
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The Blues traded from depth to address the need for offense, especially on the PP. The focus was on offensive talent playing in the NHL. This is the opposite of a rebuild.
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Jack T Adams wrote:The Blues traded from depth to address the need for offense, especially on the PP. The focus was on offensive talent playing in the NHL. This is the opposite of a rebuild.
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All I know is that im happy as hell right now
No more Brewer, and a big talented power forward.
The PP will be decent/good from here on out.
No more Brewer, and a big talented power forward.
The PP will be decent/good from here on out.
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One could argue that there never was a rebuild. There was an attempted rebuild but usually they result in the team improving. While they DID improve for a while, they were heading in the opposite direction as of yesterday. Who knows what happens from today onward though.
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No more EJ playing with the puck on the blueline while on the PP.
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Some perspective on the trade from Avs fans.
Also some perspective on the Blues and their fans as well:
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lol. Their fans really like to drink too. I was at a game where the old lady with a voice like an ashtray was yelling “Go Blues!” in the first. It eventually became “GO BOOOZE!!!” by the end of the game.
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I think it could be argued that the most critical error in the rebuild process (in hindsight) was taking Johnson instead of Toews. Getting past the label of the #1 overall pick and the concept of dealing a #1 pick while rebuilding, the deal breaks down as:
Stewart and a 2nd for McClement and a 1st
Shattenkirk for Johnson
The forward half is a clear win for the Blues
The defense half could play out either way IMHO
I will admit to being happier about the deal after reading how pissed the Aves fans were too
Stewart and a 2nd for McClement and a 1st
Shattenkirk for Johnson
The forward half is a clear win for the Blues
The defense half could play out either way IMHO
I will admit to being happier about the deal after reading how pissed the Aves fans were too
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Maybe EJ can score one more goal for the Blues on Tuesday.
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btw, not to rain on the parade here, but if EJ gets close to his potential and Stewart remains inconsistent, this trade will favor the Avs for sure.
Trading away big, agile, young d-men is always a gamble.
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goon attack wrote:btw, not to rain on the parade here, but if EJ gets close to his potential and Stewart remains inconsistent, this trade will favor the Avs for sure.
Trading away big, agile, young d-men is always a gamble.
By the same token, EJ may never be more then a........Brewer type player.
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Ya thats what the Islanders thought when they traded away Brewer.goon attack wrote:btw, not to rain on the parade here, but if EJ gets close to his potential and Stewart remains inconsistent, this trade will favor the Avs for sure.
Trading away big, agile, young d-men is always a gamble.
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ZING!!Leedog wrote:Maybe EJ can score one more goal for the Blues on Tuesday.
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You guys are right, of course... and take the known bad ass (Stewart) if you can get him. But it could backfire... although the odds are in our favor. EJ may just be another 3rd or 4th defenseman with size whose lack of nastiness and physicality prevented him from being the next Chris Pronger.
I just hope Stewart isn't injury prone and too inconsistent. What I really like about him is that he can dominate some games... in the PLAYOFFS.
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Andy Strickland on Jan. 24th wrote:All this (local) talk of the Blues looking to trade Erik Johnson is nonsense #Blues #Badrumor