Blues 2022 Off-Season Thread

[theohall]

The issue with bringing in M. Tkachuck is he is due a massive payday, like the 10M AAV type and equivalent salary would have to go the other way. A 100 point season is going to demand that kind of payday. Kyrou won't account for that.

[theohall]

Rosen signed to 2-year 2-way (as expected) contract. .7625 AAV when in the NHL.

[flyingnote38]

assuming the bolts finish off the rags, comparisons to the early 80's match ups of the isles (bolts) and oilers (aves) are inevitable. hoping its 1983 not 84

[ervinjason]

It looks like they are in better shape this offseason than next. Re-sign Perron (might be due for a small raise), and the RFAs shouldn't be difficult to sign- Mikkola and Perunovich, while I expect them to be big parts of the team going forward, haven't really "proven themselves" enough to command huge salaries (yet). Bozak- retires. Thanks for everything (seriously). Leddy- moves on.

He was a rental anyway. Scandella is a problem- like theo said, it would be optimal to have Perunovich and Mikkola as the 7 and 8. Of course, injuries tend to happen to the Blues' D-corps pretty frequently, so even if Scandella/Leddy stays and Perunovich/Mikkola are initially sent down, it won't be long before one or both of them are back up with the Blues.

Next year- ugh. O'Reilly, Tarasenko, Thomas, Kyrou, Barbashev due for contracts.

[WaukeeBlues]

The issue with bringing in M. Tkachuck is he is due a massive payday, like the 10M AAV type and equivalent salary would have to go the other way. A 100 point season is going to demand that kind of payday. Kyrou won't account for that.

Yup. So even if (a HUGE, GIGANTIC "if") Army was somehow able to put together a trade package enticing enough for the Flames to do it (and, might I add, is better than any package any other team can put together, which is highly unlikely), oh yea now you have to sign the guy to a bigger contract than Army has ever signed a player to, ever, and likely with a lot of the same demands from Matty Tkachuk (NMC and signing bonus money) that Army wouldn't do for Petro.

I don't see it happening.

In a separate thread I had broke down Matthew Tkachuk and Brady Tkachuk possibly being Blues someday. While it might happen, I don't think it's until later in their careers when they're both UFA's.

[glen a richter]

The issue with bringing in M. Tkachuck is he is due a massive payday, like the 10M AAV type and equivalent salary would have to go the other way. A 100 point season is going to demand that kind of payday. Kyrou won't account for that.

Yup. So even if (a HUGE, GIGANTIC "if") Army was somehow able to put together a trade package enticing enough for the Flames to do it (and, might I add, is better than any package any other team can put together, which is highly unlikely), oh yea now you have to sign the guy to a bigger contract than Army has ever signed a player to, ever, and likely with a lot of the same demands from Matty Tkachuk (NMC and signing bonus money) that Army wouldn't do for Petro.

I don't see it happening.

In a separate thread I had broke down Matthew Tkachuk and Brady Tkachuk possibly being Blues someday. While it might happen, I don't think it's until later in their careers when they're both UFA's.

Any trade to acquire Tkachuk would cost so much it would end up being a net negative.

[WaukeeBlues]

The issue with bringing in M. Tkachuck is he is due a massive payday, like the 10M AAV type and equivalent salary would have to go the other way. A 100 point season is going to demand that kind of payday. Kyrou won't account for that.

Yup. So even if (a HUGE, GIGANTIC "if") Army was somehow able to put together a trade package enticing enough for the Flames to do it (and, might I add, is better than any package any other team can put together, which is highly unlikely), oh yea now you have to sign the guy to a bigger contract than Army has ever signed a player to, ever, and likely with a lot of the same demands from Matty Tkachuk (NMC and signing bonus money) that Army wouldn't do for Petro.

I don't see it happening.

In a separate thread I had broke down Matthew Tkachuk and Brady Tkachuk possibly being Blues someday. While it might happen, I don't think it's until later in their careers when they're both UFA's.

Any trade to acquire Tkachuk would cost so much it would end up being a net negative.

I agree. For any team. It'll be prohibitive to acquire him. I SO hope he pulls a Mark Stone with Ottawa and demands arbitration and goes that way.

[theohall]

Hadn't realized the Blues signed Logan Brown to a 750k 1 yr 1 way contract extension back in February. While he barely played in January, he absolutely sucked the rest of the season. He's going to have to earn a spot with how poorly he played down the stretch when he did play.

[glen a richter]

With Koskinen signing to play in Europe and Mike Smith being 40+ years old, Edmonton became an even more better landing spot for Husso. I bet he signs there which will of course leave Lindgren and Hofer to battle out for #2 behind Binner. I think the only way Husso stays is if he takes a discount to stay because Edmonton will probably be willing to overpay.

[theohall]

With Lindgren already 28 and turning 29 in December, if he sticks around, which he might not given he'll have his highest value ever as a UFA, I'd have him be the backup while Hofer, turning 22 in July, get a full year as the unquestioned #1 in Springfield so he keeps playing. Lindgren no longer needs that starting experience, but would likely be fine were Binnington to not be sharp in the regular season again. Lindgren even being available is going to depend on contract offers, which the Blues, given their current cap situation likely won't be able to match. This would force Hofer up as backup unless the Blues committed to giving him another year in the A as #1, which would lead to looking for a league minimum backup or promoting Ellis temporarily, who is not ready.

Best scenario is Lindgren becomes Binnington's backup and Hofer gets one more year in Springfield.

There is also the slim possibility of Vadim Zherenko having a surprising camp.... His MHL numbers, the KHL Junior league, are outstanding!

[gaijin]

The issue with bringing in M. Tkachuck is he is due a massive payday, like the 10M AAV type and equivalent salary would have to go the other way. A 100 point season is going to demand that kind of payday. Kyrou won't account for that.

Yup. So even if (a HUGE, GIGANTIC "if") Army was somehow able to put together a trade package enticing enough for the Flames to do it (and, might I add, is better than any package any other team can put together, which is highly unlikely), oh yea now you have to sign the guy to a bigger contract than Army has ever signed a player to, ever, and likely with a lot of the same demands from Matty Tkachuk (NMC and signing bonus money) that Army wouldn't do for Petro.

I don't see it happening.

In a separate thread I had broke down Matthew Tkachuk and Brady Tkachuk possibly being Blues someday. While it might happen, I don't think it's until later in their careers when they're both UFA's.

Any trade to acquire Tkachuk would cost so much it would end up being a net negative.

It stills burns me that since I started watching hockey, the Blues have had one #1 overall pick. It wasn't a Crosby or a McDavid or a Tkachuk. It was Eric Johnson.

[gaijin]

It looks like they are in better shape this offseason than next. Re-sign Perron (might be due for a small raise), and the RFAs shouldn't be difficult to sign- Mikkola and Perunovich, while I expect them to be big parts of the team going forward, haven't really "proven themselves" enough to command huge salaries (yet). Bozak- retires. Thanks for everything (seriously). Leddy- moves on.

He was a rental anyway. Scandella is a problem- like theo said, it would be optimal to have Perunovich and Mikkola as the 7 and 8. Of course, injuries tend to happen to the Blues' D-corps pretty frequently, so even if Scandella/Leddy stays and Perunovich/Mikkola are initially sent down, it won't be long before one or both of them are back up with the Blues.

Next year- ugh. O'Reilly, Tarasenko, Thomas, Kyrou, Barbashev due for contracts.

I'm flattered you took my entire post and re-posted it.

[flyingnote38]

now that the Aves have won the Cup (as according to the prophecy), the season is officially over, and the offseason has officially begun. The Blues I felt gave the Aves the toughest matchup in their cup run. if Binnington is 'back,' I think we have a reasonably good opportunity to play late '80s Flames to the Aves late '80s Oilers

most mock drafts have us drafting a d man due to a fairly empty high end d prospect cupboard

it will be interesting to see if army surprises us again this offseason (like with saad, Buch, krug, ...)

[theohall]

No matter what we're thinking, we'll get some answers on Friday. Especially regarding Leddy.

[glen a richter]

I’m thinking a trade with Arizona, sending Barbashev and a future 1st rounder and probably Bolduc and/or one of the goalies, and getting Chychrun and one of Arizona’s 3 first rounders.

Chychrun solves a lot of the defense question marks, even better if they can offload the Scandella contract. I’m sure it seems like I’m giving the Coyotes a lot but I think the return would be worth it.

[theohall]

The issue with goalies, the valuable ones right now are Hofer, Lindgren, and Husso. With the latter two being UFAs and Friday is UFA day, I doubt any goalies from the Blues get traded to anyone.

[WaukeeBlues]

Perron not being done yet is making me nervous. What's the hold up?!

Word on the street is that Husso is gone. Strick doesn't seem to think it's a foregone conclusion, as he really likes it in St. Louis and has a great relationship with Binner but I just can't see how we can afford him given what he'd likely want in term and AAV.

I'm totally on board with Lindgren as a backup IF he would take the right amount of AAV and term. Big "if."

What about a Tkachuk offer sheet? The Athletic has him as a candidate for an offer sheet. It'd cost you 4 first round picks but so long as your franchise putting up seasons of 80+ points a year for the next 4 years statistically it's better odds to have Tkachuk than 4 low first round picks. The Athletic suggested $11.2 over 7 years which is a ton but does Calgary match that number? Obviously the hard part to getting him would be shedding salary. At least Taransenko (with no money coming back) and then you're fleshing out the rest of your roster with cheap UFA's and Perron would be gone. Still an intriguing thought, not that I think Army would do it in a million years or that Calgary wouldn't match it.

[theohall]

The risk of a Tkachuk RFA offer, beyond the shedding salary thing, is Calgary doing the same to Blues future RFAs, notably Thomas. This has happened in the past between the Blues and other organizations. Last time I believe was with Vancouver.

[theohall]

Forgot Free Agency day got pushed to July 13th due to the way scheduling worked this past season. So draft is first, like it usually is.

[glen a richter]

I like the hire of MacTavish to replace Montgomery. Tons of quality experience there, he’ll help out a ton on the bench.