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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/B ... pm/1/70516

Just a quick note as I just got off the phone with a very trusted source he tells me that there is a "better than most people think" market for Tyler Bozak and that the Toronto Maple Leafs are likely to make a move soon.

Since the Draft the asking price has been higher than most wanted to pay. However, with the amount of valuable players still available dwindling, and Mike Santorelli going to Anaheim, both the St. Louis Blues and the New Jersey Devils are talking to Toronto about Bozak.

On Curtis Glencross...

Reports are he is getting a tryout with the Colorado Avalanche. That would be a great fit and could really help bring some needed grit missing since the loss of Stastny.
It's from Eklund...so...you know...grain of salt and all.

Bozak's cap hit is $4.2 million and is under contract through '17-'18.
Not sure what happened to his +/- last year...but it was an atrocious -34. And in 378 career games played, he is a -73. Yikes. Now, granted, he has played on some bad Toronto teams...but still.
He has 1 goal and 1 assist in 5 career playoff games.

I'd trade Berglund and a pick for him in a second. We'd have to take on $500k in salary in that scenario, which is almost half of the cap space we have left.

Another option on the PP would be nice. In comparison to Berglund...Bozak had 12 ppg's and 2 shg's last year, Berglund had 0 ppg's and 0 shg's.
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Making an insurance policy for Jori, eh? If so, I'd look elsewhere. Bozak ain't the solution. Put him on a line where he is relied upon and he's absolute garbage. That's why he's so cheap.

And if we're talking playoff points (let alone goals), Bergy makes Bozak look like a clown.

Why not just bring up Fabbri and run with that? He'll be better than anyone we can bring in that we could afford at this point and we don't exactly got a surplus of Centres on this team.
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Oaklandblue wrote:... we don't exactly got a surplus of Centres on this team.
All the more reason Barbashev should be on the team.
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I'd also trade him for Berglund in a second. Other than that scenario, I don't see a reason or possibility of acquiring him. Not enough cap space and there's nobody other than Ott that I'd really "want" to part with at this stage.
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Oaklandblue wrote:Making an insurance policy for Jori, eh? If so, I'd look elsewhere. Bozak ain't the solution. Put him on a line where he is relied upon and he's absolute garbage. That's why he's so cheap.
He's not exactly cheap...but he is a better value than Berglund is.
Oaklandblue wrote:And if we're talking playoff points (let alone goals), Bergy makes Bozak look like a clown.
Berglund's playoff PPG avg. - .44
Bozak's playoff PPG avg. - .40

Bozak has also only played in 5 playoff games...so his sample size is so small you can't really say if he is a good playoff guy or not, but based on the numbers we do have, I'm not sure why you feel Berglund makes Bozak look like a clown when their PPG avg. in the playoff is about the same.

And before the last playoffs, Berglund only had 1 pt. in his previous 10 playoff games. He isn't making anyone look like a clown.
Oaklandblue wrote:Why not just bring up Fabbri and run with that? He'll be better than anyone we can bring in that we could afford at this point and we don't exactly got a surplus of Centres on this team.
I'm all for giving the young guys a shot. But seeing as it would be quite likely that next season they won't have THAT much of an impact offensively...at least not to the degree that we need. Of course I could be wrong about that, but I just don't have high hopes for Fabbri or Rattie or Barbeshev having any kind of fantastic immediate impact out of the gates. But by all means...let's plug someone in for a while and see how they do.
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cprice12 wrote:
Oaklandblue wrote:Making an insurance policy for Jori, eh? If so, I'd look elsewhere. Bozak ain't the solution. Put him on a line where he is relied upon and he's absolute garbage. That's why he's so cheap.
He's not exactly cheap...but he is a better value than Berglund is.
Oaklandblue wrote:And if we're talking playoff points (let alone goals), Bergy makes Bozak look like a clown.
Berglund's playoff PPG avg. - .44
Bozak's playoff PPG avg. - .40

Bozak has also only played in 5 playoff games...so his sample size is so small you can't really say if he is a good playoff guy or not, but based on the numbers we do have, I'm not sure why you feel Berglund makes Bozak look like a clown when their PPG avg. in the playoff is about the same.

And before the last playoffs, Berglund only had 1 pt. in his previous 10 playoff games. He isn't making anyone look like a clown.
Oaklandblue wrote:Why not just bring up Fabbri and run with that? He'll be better than anyone we can bring in that we could afford at this point and we don't exactly got a surplus of Centres on this team.
I'm all for giving the young guys a shot. But seeing as it would be quite likely that next season they won't have THAT much of an impact offensively...at least not to the degree that we need. Of course I could be wrong about that, but I just don't have high hopes for Fabbri or Rattie or Barbeshev having any kind of fantastic immediate impact out of the gates. But by all means...let's plug someone in for a while and see how they do.
If you want instant impact, spend money and trade off resources. We have time, we shouldnt rush and develop the guns we got and trade for what we need. Trading a centre who has been a fairly consistant playoff point contributor on a team that has a hard time getting points in the playoffs is stupid.

Bergy having -better- numbers than Bozak with Bo playing in 1 playoff series while Bergy has played in what 5, is proven consistancy from a player in the wrong system who is otherwise mediocre. Bozak is in a system filled with bad habits and bad management until recently. You really want to invite that in?

A 4.2m player whose value is 1-2 second/third round picks screams mediocre player on a bad contract. Why the hell would we want to take that on?
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cprice12 wrote:
Oaklandblue wrote:Making an insurance policy for Jori, eh? If so, I'd look elsewhere. Bozak ain't the solution. Put him on a line where he is relied upon and he's absolute garbage. That's why he's so cheap.
He's not exactly cheap...but he is a better value than Berglund is.
Oaklandblue wrote:And if we're talking playoff points (let alone goals), Bergy makes Bozak look like a clown.
Berglund's playoff PPG avg. - .44
Bozak's playoff PPG avg. - .40

Bozak has also only played in 5 playoff games...so his sample size is so small you can't really say if he is a good playoff guy or not, but based on the numbers we do have, I'm not sure why you feel Berglund makes Bozak look like a clown when their PPG avg. in the playoff is about the same.

And before the last playoffs, Berglund only had 1 pt. in his previous 10 playoff games. He isn't making anyone look like a clown.
Oaklandblue wrote:Why not just bring up Fabbri and run with that? He'll be better than anyone we can bring in that we could afford at this point and we don't exactly got a surplus of Centres on this team.
I'm all for giving the young guys a shot. But seeing as it would be quite likely that next season they won't have THAT much of an impact offensively...at least not to the degree that we need. Of course I could be wrong about that, but I just don't have high hopes for Fabbri or Rattie or Barbeshev having any kind of fantastic immediate impact out of the gates. But by all means...let's plug someone in for a while and see how they do.
If you want instant impact, spend money and trade off resources. We have time, we shouldnt rush and develop the guns we got and trade for what we need. Trading a centre who has been a fairly consistant playoff point contributor on a team that has a hard time getting points in the playoffs is stupid.
I assume you are referring to Berglund?
Berglund is NOT in any way shape or form a consistent playoff point contributor... please see his whopping 1 pt. in his previous 10 playoff games prior to last season.
And if we are settling for Berglund's performance and being happy with it to the point of it being the reason he is being kept, that is sad. We need better than that.
Oaklandblue wrote:Bergy having -better- numbers than Bozak with Bo playing in 1 playoff series while Bergy has played in what 5, is proven consistancy from a player in the wrong system who is otherwise mediocre. Bozak is in a system filled with bad habits and bad management until recently. You really want to invite that in?

A 4.2m player whose value is 1-2 second/third round picks screams mediocre player on a bad contract. Why the hell would we want to take that on?
Berglund's playoff point contributions are 4 hundredths better than Bozak's. They are essentially the same. I don't think it's fair to imply that Berglund is vastly superior in the playoffs when he's not.

We have seen the best Berglund has to offer...and offensively, he isn't cutting it.
Bozak has proven to be better offensively than Berglund. I think it's a no-brainer gamble to move Berglund for Bozak in hopes that Bozak's superior offensive skills would translate into better playoff point production than Berglund. Because, like I said...Bozak has only played in 5 playoff games, so we really don't know what he can do over a larger sample size.

We already have a mediocre player on a bad contract...his name is Berglund. I'd rather take my chances with Bozak.

So you wouldn't want a player who was on a bad team and in a bad system, coming into a much better team with a better system? You don't think that could benefit Bozak?

The goal here is to generate more offense. We lost some offense when we moved Oshie for Brouwer. Hopefully a kid or two can jump in and help some...but moving Berglund and a pick for Bozak would be an improvement offensively...which is kind of what we need to be doing.
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Bozak
2015 5 M
2016 4.5 M
2017 4 M

Current Cap Hit 4.2

Berglund

2015 3.7
2016 3.7

Cap Hit 3.7

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Career	    GP	 G	 A	 Pts	+/-	 G/Gm	A/Gm	Pts/Gm
Berglund	513	118	129	247	21	0.230019493	0.251461988	0.481481481
Bozak	   378	 95	137	232  -73	0.251322751	0.362433862	0.613756614
#1 Berglund is 1000 times better defensively
#2 Berglund is cheaper
#3 Berglund becomes a UFA after the 2016-17 season and can be replaced without affecting the salary cap. This is not true irt Bozak who would require a buyout.
#4 So why pay more for a longer period of time for similar offensive production with less effective defensive play? Bozak is better at faceoffs and hits more. That's it. Remember - the Blues issue is scoring. Bozak does nothing to help with this.

In terms of advanced stats, Berglund beats Bozak in Corsi (Rel), Fenwick (Rel), and PDO. This is with Berglund having 59% defensize zone starts compared to Bozak's 52%. When considering advanced metrics, it's significant. Bozak started more in the offensive zone, yet wound up with lesser numbers. Yes, being on the Leafs didn't help. But it doesn't mean he would be any better on a different team.
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I'd rather go with Fabbri. Hitchcock's system stifles most offense anyway, so how good would Bozak be on this team anyway? And if Hitch is to be trusted at his word that the team would be faster this season and, by default therefore more successful on the offensive side of the ice, Fabbri should be able to contribute at least at the levels of Berglund if he comes as advertised, and possibly better.
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If yall really want to take on a 4.2m contract, consider this:

Bozak slotted in with JVR and Kessel, very impossible not to put up the numbers he did. When he wasn't with that lineup, he looked like utter shit. Not defensively responsible and he has a lot of holes in his game. In contrast, he was in a similar position as Derek Roy was for us but even Derek would be an upgrade on him, and Roy doesn't cost no 4.2m for 2-3 years.

By the trade deadline, Bozak will be waiver bait. If we're going that way, why not just slot in Bergy as 1/2C if necessary until Lehtera comes back, or go with Fabs or Barbs?

But if yall are REALLY that deadset on shipping Bergy out to the Leafs, which I'm perfectly OK with, pursue JVR instead and bring on more firepower. 4.25 is his caphit, about the same as Bozak, but unlike him, JVR is the real deal and on a long-term contract with a very gracious caphit for a guy that produces that is already a bargain. We got a ton of D in the pipeline to make Toronto interested (If any teams need D, it's the Leafs) and we can piece together a deal on that end that won't tear up the team and bring back a definite significant upgrade.
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cprice12 wrote: Berglund's playoff point contributions are 4 hundredths better than Bozak's. They are essentially the same. I don't think it's fair to imply that Berglund is vastly superior in the playoffs when he's not.
On THIS team, in the last FOUR playoffs:


--Last Four Playoff Appearances (Sorted by Points)--

2014-2015 - Bergy RANKED 4th in Points
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# POS PLAYER GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S%
22 D KEVIN SHATTENKIRK 6 0 8 8 2 2 0 0 0 13 0.00
91 R VLADIMIR TARASENKO 6 6 1 7 -4 0 2 0 2 14 42.90
20 L ALEXANDER STEEN 6 1 3 4 -3 2 0 1 0 15 6.70
21 C PATRIK BERGLUND 6 2 2 4 4 0 0 0 0 11 18.20

17 L JADEN SCHWARTZ 6 1 2 3 -2 0 0 0 0 15 6.70
42 C DAVID BACKES 6 1 1 2 2 2 0 0 0 10 10.00
74 R T.J. OSHIE 6 1 1 2 -3 0 0 0 0 16 6.30
27 D ALEX PIETRANGELO 6 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 23 0.00
12 C JORI LEHTERA 5 0 2 2 -2 0 0 0 0 2 0.00
32 L CHRIS PORTER 3 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 0.00
26 C PAUL STASTNY 6 1 0 1 -3 4 0 0 0 8 12.50
75 R RYAN REAVES 6 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 50.00
23 R DMITRIJ JASKIN 6 0 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 6 0.00
5 D BARRET JACKMAN 6 0 0 0 -1 4 0 0 0 1 0.00
9 C STEVE OTT 6 0 0 0 0 26 0 0 0 6 0.00
57 C MARCEL GOC 4 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 4 0.00
6 D ZBYNEK MICHALEK 6 0 0 0 -2 4 0 0 0 4 0.00
19 D JAY BOUWMEESTER 6 0 0 0 -1 2 0 0 0 5 0.00
4 D CARL GUNNARSSON 6 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0.00GOALIES

2013-2014 - BERGY RANKED LAST IN POINTS
21 C PATRIK BERGLUND 4 0 0 0 -7 0 0 0 0 9 0.00

2012-2013 - Bergy RANKED 6TH IN POINTS
Forwards & Defensemen
# POS PLAYER GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S%
20 L ALEXANDER STEEN 6 3 0 3 2 6 1 1 1 17 17.60
42 C DAVID BACKES 6 1 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 19 5.30
17 L VLADIMIR SOBOTKA 6 0 3 3 4 0 0 0 0 6 0.00
5 D BARRET JACKMAN 6 1 1 2 -1 10 0 0 1 7 14.30
74 R T.J. OSHIE 6 2 0 2 -4 2 1 0 0 6 33.30
21 C PATRIK BERGLUND 6 1 1 2 -3 2 0 0 0 11 9.10

22 D KEVIN SHATTENKIRK 6 0 2 2 -1 6 0 0 0 12 0.00
57 L DAVID PERRON 6 0 2 2 -3 6 0 0 0 12 0.00
27 D ALEX PIETRANGELO 6 1 1 2 2 2 0 0 0 14 7.10
19 D JAY BOUWMEESTER 6 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 7 0.00
32 L CHRIS PORTER 6 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 7 14.30
46 D ROMAN POLAK 6 0 1 1 -2 2 0 0 0 8 0.00
25 R CHRIS STEWART 6 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 17 0.00
17 L JADEN SCHWARTZ 6 0 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 13 0.00
33 D JORDAN LEOPOLD 6 0 0 0 -2 0 0 0 0 0 0.00
10 L ANDY MCDONALD 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 0.00
79 R ADAM CRACKNELL 5 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 5 0.00
75 R RYAN REAVES 6 0 0 0 -1 2 0 0 0 6 0.00
91 R VLADIMIR TARASENKO 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00

2011-2012 - BERGY RANKED 2ND IN POINTS
Forwards & Defensemen
# POS PLAYER GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S%
10 L ANDY MCDONALD 9 5 5 10 -2 8 2 0 1 26 19.20
21 C PATRIK BERGLUND 9 3 4 7 2 6 2 0 0 24 12.50

57 L DAVID PERRON 9 1 4 5 -4 10 0 0 1 16 6.30
27 D ALEX PIETRANGELO 8 0 5 5 -1 0 0 0 0 19 0.00
42 C DAVID BACKES 9 2 2 4 -5 18 0 0 0 12 16.70
13 D CARLO COLAIACOVO 7 0 3 3 2 16 0 0 0 12 0.00
20 L ALEXANDER STEEN 9 1 2 3 -2 6 1 0 1 21 4.80
74 R T.J. OSHIE 9 0 3 3 -2 6 0 0 0 13 0.00
4 D KRIS RUSSELL 9 0 3 3 3 5 0 0 0 7 0.00
17 L VLADIMIR SOBOTKA 9 1 1 2 0 15 0 0 1 4 25.00
25 R CHRIS STEWART 7 2 0 2 -1 12 0 0 0 13 15.40
22 D KEVIN SHATTENKIRK 9 1 1 2 -3 6 0 0 0 26 3.80
44 C JASON ARNOTT 7 1 0 1 -1 0 1 0 0 11 9.10
15 R JAMIE LANGENBRUNNER 9 1 0 1 -1 11 0 0 0 8 12.50
12 C SCOTT NICHOL 9 0 1 1 -3 14 0 0 0 8 0.00
5 D BARRET JACKMAN 9 0 1 1 -8 21 0 0 0 9 0.00
26 R B.J. CROMBEEN 7 1 0 1 -1 31 0 0 0 8 12.50
36 R MATT D'AGOSTINI 4 1 0 1 0 4 0 0 0 8 12.50
6 D KENT HUSKINS 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 0.00
46 D ROMAN POLAK 9 0 0 0 -3 19 0 0 0 6 0.00
75 R RYAN REAVES 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.00
28 D IAN COLE 2 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 0.00


So with the exception of one year, his playoff performance has ranked within the top six AT WORST for three years out of four. That is pretty damn consistent. Take a minute and look at the players who did NOT post points or fewer than Bergy. How is it he is performing and they aren't?

But no, we're going to take ONE YEAR of Playoff Bozak and believe THAT is a trend? How many players do we got that pot points in the regular season and can't even get an Assist in the playoffs? These guys don't exactly grow on trees for us and I don't care if Bergy sucks ass in the regular season only to turn it up a gear in the playoffs. In fact, I welcome that.
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You can take Bergy's numbers out of the 13-14 season since he played with a separated shoulder.

I know Bergy is one of the whipping boys around here but does what is asked of him. Hitch wants him to play defensively and that's what he does. I wish Hitch would let him play like he does for Sweden. He's so much better when he is allowed to skate freely. He's just more creative.

Bozak is on a bad team but he is not a great player and he won't be able to help this team. He's just not that good from what I've seen. I'd take a pass...
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Seriously? All this over a couple bottom-six forwards? Definitely the dead part of the off season... :lol:

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Oaklandblue wrote:
cprice12 wrote: Berglund's playoff point contributions are 4 hundredths better than Bozak's. They are essentially the same. I don't think it's fair to imply that Berglund is vastly superior in the playoffs when he's not.
On THIS team, in the last FOUR playoffs:

--Last Four Playoff Appearances (Sorted by Points)--

So with the exception of one year, his playoff performance has ranked within the top six AT WORST for three years out of four. That is pretty damn consistent.
Let's not drool all over Berglund's offensive numbers. You have to go back 4 years to make his numbers not seem God awful.
In the last three playoffs combined, Berglund has 3g, 3a in 16 games and is a combined -6. And during that stretch, he only had 2 pts. in 10 games prior to last playoffs.
Oaklandblue wrote:Take a minute and look at the players who did NOT post points or fewer than Bergy. How is it he is performing and they aren't?
He isn't "performing". He's not good offensively. It might not look as bad to you because everyone else was sucking so bad.
Oaklandblue wrote:But no, we're going to take ONE YEAR of Playoff Bozak and believe THAT is a trend?
I never said that Bozak's 5 games was a trend. But I think there is a greater upside to Bozak's offensive numbers than Beglund's. Bozak could go either way in the playoffs... we really don't know yet, he hasn't played enough games. He is a more skilled offensive forward though and hopefully that would transition into better playoff numbers than what Berglund is putting up. Or it might not...but I'm tired of waiting for Berglund to contribute offensively.
Yes, Berglund is decent defensively...even though he is a combined -6 in the last three playoffs. But decent defensive forwards can be acquired at any time. Berglund is no rare find by any means.
Oaklandblue wrote:How many players do we got that pot points in the regular season and can't even get an Assist in the playoffs?
Too many. But Berglund doesn't even put up that many points in the regular season.
Oaklandblue wrote:These guys don't exactly grow on trees for us and I don't care if Bergy sucks ass in the regular season only to turn it up a gear in the playoffs. In fact, I welcome that.
I don't get it. You seem to think he is some "playoff performer", but like I said... 3g, 3a, and a -6 in the last 16 playoff games for Berglund is not "turning it up a gear".

And yes, a number of players have constantly disappointed us, but to me, Berglund is one of the guys I'd like to see go...if only to make room for Fabbri or Rattie or Barbashev or Bozak, or whoever.

I'm just going to have to agree to disagree with you on Berglund.
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I would rather keep Berglund over Bozak and its hard for me to say that, but I don't see the post season help Bozak can provide and do we really need his help during the regular season to take on another 500k for 15 more points. There is also this http://theleafsnation.com/2013/5/17/why ... -as-a-leaf While written in 2013, I would say his numbers have been pumped up by JVR and Kessel. I don't see him getting 50 points on our third line.

Not to mention who really thinks Toronto wants Berglund? I don't see how Berglund helps them, I think they would be gunning for Rattie or Mangus or both.

I want to move Berglund as much as anyone but if it wont improve us then keep him till he gets picked up in the expansion draft :grin:

If we should be shopping anyone its David Backes, Carl Gunnerson and maybe one of either Binnington or Copley.
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Some more about Berglund...

If you add up his total PP time from all of last season, he had 60 minutes and 31 seconds of power play ice time last year. He didn't see a ton of PP time (which is telling to be honest). If he really had the skills to make something happen in the offensive zone, he'd have been played more on the PP.

But, with that said... how many points did he put up in PP situations where there was no "defense first" mindset, nothing holding him back from producing some offense when the #1 gameplan on the ice was to actually score?

He had:
0ppg, 1ppa...in over 60 minutes of total ice time with the man advantage.
(and if you want to include the playoffs...he had 0ppg, 0ppa in the playoffs)

He was actually tied with Elliott and Allen in power play points last season. :facepalm:

I don't usually like to rag on players this much. The last time I did this was with Brewer when he was here. I just want the team part ways with him and give someone else his roster spot to help generate some more offense.
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APOD wrote:If we should be shopping anyone its David Backes, Carl Gunnerson and maybe one of either Binnington or Copley.
There are some mild Backes rumors out there right now.
PHI, OTT, WSH, MIN...
...but I'm not sure how legit they are. Probably bogus...but you never know.
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cprice12 wrote:I don't usually like to rag on players this much. The last time I did this was with Brewer when he was here. I just want the team part ways with him and give someone else his roster spot to help generate some more offense.
I'm fine with moving Berglund, but not for someone similar (Bozak) who costs more for a longer period of time. Why take up MORE cap space for essentially the same production?? That's just dumb.

Almost everyone here bitches about Berglund's contract. Imagine the outcry when we pay someone more via trade who does the same thing. Oh, noes... Army did it again. :roll:
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cprice12 wrote:
APOD wrote:If we should be shopping anyone its David Backes, Carl Gunnerson and maybe one of either Binnington or Copley.
There are some mild Backes rumors out there right now.
PHI, OTT, WSH, MIN...
...but I'm not sure how legit they are. Probably bogus...but you never know.
If one of the young guys looks good enough to help in the post season and earn a spot. I say Backes is out the door at the deadline. Unless they can come to an agreement on a contract extension for AAV 3.5mil I like him wish he didn't have to go but if we want to keep this playoff thing going and keep try to make cup runs he might have to go.

Phi-I would want Radko Gudas and Nicolas Aube-Kubel coming back......or Simmonds straight up lol :roll:

OTT-Mike Hoffman and a 2nd

WSH- T.J. Oshie? :lol: J/K Tom Wilson and Kuznetsov would do it for me we give them back their 3rd on condition Tom Wilson does something.

MIN-NO WAY we trade him to them

I'm probably way off base here.
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Misc. Blues wrote:You can take Bergy's numbers out of the 13-14 season since he played with a separated shoulder.

I know Bergy is one of the whipping boys around here but does what is asked of him. Hitch wants him to play defensively and that's what he does. I wish Hitch would let him play like he does for Sweden. He's so much better when he is allowed to skate freely. He's just more creative.

Bozak is on a bad team but he is not a great player and he won't be able to help this team. He's just not that good from what I've seen. I'd take a pass...
I've never hated Berglund or anything I just think he's overrated. I don't like that we're paying him as much for what he brings. Same with Ott. If we're in agreement that's more on Army than on Berglund than fine.

It's also an enormous pet peeve of mine when guys have size but don't use it. Berglund could be far more physical and imposing than he is.
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