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At least Vladdie went out with a Stanley Cup ring. How many Blues can say that?F Keenan wrote:WestCoastWingsFan wrote:They also let Coffey go. Detroit's D is so good, they toss Hall of Famers out the door on occasion!!!goon attack wrote:They lost Konstantinov.OS wrote: I can't wait until Wings fans have to deal with losing a defenseman of that caliber.
Wish they would toss them out in style and send them to the airport by limo...... but I guess that hasn't worked out too well in the past.
The ones who played for other teams!WestCoastWingsFan wrote: At least Vladdie went out with a Stanley Cup ring. How many Blues can say that?
Oh yeah, well how many fights did Zetterberg get in? How many guys did he clear out in front of the net? How many times did he beat Owen Nolan's ass?WestCoastWingsFan wrote:Played better? Yea, after all, it's not like he led all rookies in scoring that year. O, wait a minute, he did. He also logged a lot of time on the PK and PP units. How much time did Jackman log on the PP?cprice12 wrote:They still whine and cry about Jackman winning the Calder instead of Zetterberg.Oates2Hull wrote:I was reading the lets-go-wings forum and wow, are they obsessed with Jackman. Every third post was about Jackman.
Jackman deserved to win it. If Zetterberg would have played better, he would have won it...but he didn't...and he didn't.
...and HOW MANY ORBITAL BONES DID ZETTERBERG CRUSH?! [IMG:15:15]http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u68/ ... ackeye.jpg[/img]cprice12 wrote:Oh yeah, well how many fights did Zetterberg get in? How many guys did he clear out in front of the net? How many times did he beat Owen Nolan's ass?WestCoastWingsFan wrote:Played better? Yea, after all, it's not like he led all rookies in scoring that year. O, wait a minute, he did. He also logged a lot of time on the PK and PP units. How much time did Jackman log on the PP?cprice12 wrote:They still whine and cry about Jackman winning the Calder instead of Zetterberg.Oates2Hull wrote:I was reading the lets-go-wings forum and wow, are they obsessed with Jackman. Every third post was about Jackman.
Jackman deserved to win it. If Zetterberg would have played better, he would have won it...but he didn't...and he didn't.
Well, if that's the way you want to break it down, how many times did Zetterberg beat Nolan's ass in ANY year?NSWingsfan wrote:I definitely don't want to get into this with you 2 but I am curious. How many times did Jackman beat Owen Nolan's ass in his rookie year?cprice12 wrote:How many times did he beat Owen Nolan's ass?
Like I said, just curious.
We all know he didn't. He's never beaten anyone's ass.Blueline29 wrote:Well, if that's the way you want to break it down, how many times did Zetterberg beat Nolan's ass in ANY year?NSWingsfan wrote:I definitely don't want to get into this with you 2 but I am curious. How many times did Jackman beat Owen Nolan's ass in his rookie year?cprice12 wrote:How many times did he beat Owen Nolan's ass?
Like I said, just curious.
Kudos to you for recognizing Zetterberg is a better player than Jackman now, even though that isn't what we were discussing.Steve Levy Sucks wrote:Can I pipe in?
Funny, Zetterberg is one of the top 3 players in the league right now. Jackman, ain't shit.
He had one good year (Fischer anyone?). Lot's of good that did your team, but hey, winning the Calder, well that's just something for the fans to be proud of!
They most certainly did fight...and I believe Nolan got the extra penalty or something. And ok, maybe Jackman didn't beat his ass. After researching it, it's coming back to me now...but that incident may have been the deciding factor in winning the Calder.NSWingsfan wrote:We all know he didn't. He's never beaten anyone's ass.Blueline29 wrote:Well, if that's the way you want to break it down, how many times did Zetterberg beat Nolan's ass in ANY year?NSWingsfan wrote:I definitely don't want to get into this with you 2 but I am curious. How many times did Jackman beat Owen Nolan's ass in his rookie year?cprice12 wrote:How many times did he beat Owen Nolan's ass?
Like I said, just curious.
What I remember of Nolan in Jackman's rookie year was when Nolan got in Jackman's face after being goaded by Jackman and Nolan ended up with a penalty. I do not recall any ass beating or any fight at all.
Jackman lays a big hit on Morrow and Morrow takes exception. Pretty good tussle and Morrow has Jackman tied up and he is getting some good shots in. Jackman get free and lands a solid right. He switches to the left and lands another good shot and Morrow goes down.
This fight was all Jackman as he had the rights going like rock em sock em robots. Bykov tried to come back, but couldn't. Easy for Jackman, but props to Bykov for not turtling, he hung in there.
Bradley lands stuff to the shoulders. Hugging, and Jackman has it cocked. Nobody's throwing, they just look at each other, then Jackman starts to do his thing. Lands 3 or 4 shots to the face and the guy is clearley outmatched. Bradley tries to fire back, but nothing is landing.
And I thought I'd throw this one in from '06, since Jackman got a 100% decision based on the site's voters.Starts off with a scrum involving just about everyone on the ice, and Jackman and Grand-Pierre hook up and start to go. Couple quick rights by Jackman, couple by Grand-Pierre and then - POP - one to the right cheek by Jackman and that one stung. Grand-Pierre grimaces and turns his head away trying to shake off the sting. Jackman then calls in the linesmen as he realizes GP is done.
Is that good enough?Jackman hits Boughner hard from behind as the two come together and drop the gloves behind the play. Jackman unleashes a flurry of four rights while Boughner is bent over. Boughner is sent to his knees and his helmet flies off. Boughner stands back up and throws two rights as Jackman gets Boughner's jersey over his head and connects with two rights that send Boughner to his knees once again. Jackman continues to throw rights as Boughner returns to his feet and misses with two lefts. Jackman throws two more rights before the two fall to the ice with Jackman on top.
I honestly don't remember the exact date it happened, but I very vividly remember it happening.NSWingsfan wrote:We all know he didn't. He's never beaten anyone's ass.Blueline29 wrote:Well, if that's the way you want to break it down, how many times did Zetterberg beat Nolan's ass in ANY year?NSWingsfan wrote:I definitely don't want to get into this with you 2 but I am curious. How many times did Jackman beat Owen Nolan's ass in his rookie year?cprice12 wrote:How many times did he beat Owen Nolan's ass?
Like I said, just curious.
What I remember of Nolan in Jackman's rookie year was when Nolan got in Jackman's face after being goaded by Jackman and Nolan ended up with a penalty. I do not recall any ass beating or any fight at all. Maybe there were other times. So I was asking how many times, since its obvious by his statement that there were one or more times.
As I said, just curious.
Slow down their sport.cprice12 wrote:They most certainly did fight...and I believe Nolan got the extra penalty or something. And ok, maybe Jackman didn't beat his ass. After researching it, it's coming back to me now...but that incident may have been the deciding factor in winning the Calder.NSWingsfan wrote:We all know he didn't. He's never beaten anyone's ass.Blueline29 wrote:Well, if that's the way you want to break it down, how many times did Zetterberg beat Nolan's ass in ANY year?NSWingsfan wrote:I definitely don't want to get into this with you 2 but I am curious. How many times did Jackman beat Owen Nolan's ass in his rookie year?cprice12 wrote:How many times did he beat Owen Nolan's ass?
Like I said, just curious.
What I remember of Nolan in Jackman's rookie year was when Nolan got in Jackman's face after being goaded by Jackman and Nolan ended up with a penalty. I do not recall any ass beating or any fight at all.
And in response to your "he's never beaten anyone's ass" comment, here is some analysis of some of Jackman's fights from his rookie season...courtesy of hockeyfights.com.
(take note: making blanket statements in discussion forums will ALWAYS come back to bit you in the ass)
Jackman lays a big hit on Morrow and Morrow takes exception. Pretty good tussle and Morrow has Jackman tied up and he is getting some good shots in. Jackman get free and lands a solid right. He switches to the left and lands another good shot and Morrow goes down.This fight was all Jackman as he had the rights going like rock em sock em robots. Bykov tried to come back, but couldn't. Easy for Jackman, but props to Bykov for not turtling, he hung in there.Bradley lands stuff to the shoulders. Hugging, and Jackman has it cocked. Nobody's throwing, they just look at each other, then Jackman starts to do his thing. Lands 3 or 4 shots to the face and the guy is clearley outmatched. Bradley tries to fire back, but nothing is landing.And I thought I'd throw this one in from '06, since Jackman got a 100% decision based on the site's voters.Starts off with a scrum involving just about everyone on the ice, and Jackman and Grand-Pierre hook up and start to go. Couple quick rights by Jackman, couple by Grand-Pierre and then - POP - one to the right cheek by Jackman and that one stung. Grand-Pierre grimaces and turns his head away trying to shake off the sting. Jackman then calls in the linesmen as he realizes GP is done.Is that good enough?Jackman hits Boughner hard from behind as the two come together and drop the gloves behind the play. Jackman unleashes a flurry of four rights while Boughner is bent over. Boughner is sent to his knees and his helmet flies off. Boughner stands back up and throws two rights as Jackman gets Boughner's jersey over his head and connects with two rights that send Boughner to his knees once again. Jackman continues to throw rights as Boughner returns to his feet and misses with two lefts. Jackman throws two more rights before the two fall to the ice with Jackman on top.
Jackman is a pretty good fighter, but he hasn't dropped the gloves much the past couple years...maybe due to his shoulder troubles.
Bah...I got excited.NSWingsfan wrote:Slow down their sport.
I was asked how many times Zetterberg beat Nolan's ass.
